Christian Bale Outburst - not fine...

[Jimi75]

Hey folks,

I thought Bale was a cool guy, but this recently recorded outburst proves me wrong. Sad thing. Money and fame change people also if your are BATMAN.



WARNING: some may find the language offensive (lots of swearing) so click on the link on your own risk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPY1bUpCgMA

:whatever:

[Robert]

I was wondering if anyone was going to post that. I heard about it yesterday and looked into it a bit. Search for "christian bale mad" and see how many pages Google finds... over a million!

Now I really want to see that movie though! :D

I wonder how the audio file got loose? It must have come from the film team crew somehow? I would imagine Bale might try to go after the people responsible for recording it.

[piebaldpython]

What a clip that is!! :D I guess sometime within the last year or so....I believe that he was arrested or charged with beating up/threatening his mother and his sister. At the time, the police said he had quite a temper. Geez, this clip does nothing to dispel that, does it?

I work with TONS of women and we have a lively banter from time to time. When the original story hit, the women said "...oh, he couldn't have done that, he's so cute/handsome/adorable/sexy.....". Needless to say, I jumped all over those statements saying that WOMEN are NO different than guys when it pertains to extolling the real/imagined virtues of someone HOT of the opposite sex. Well, we had a round of laughs over that and just wait till I get them to see PRETTY BOY'S latest meltdown. :D

[snoglobe]

I suppose one would have to know the whole context of the situation before passing judgement.

He's obviously mad, but he didn't hit anybody, didn't shoot anybody.

Whatever.

I can only imagine (and I have to imagine, because it would never happen) that if I were in a recording studio for a long session and if I finally found the magic and nailed the solo of a lifetime and somebody forgot to roll tape, or was breaking down equipment while I was doing this, I would be mad.

As for the profanity, its just words, and I don't get offended by salty language.

[R_of_G]

It's not what I would describe as something I'd want to work with. Admittedly, I don't know the full context, but it seems to be a bit over the top for a response to just about any situation I can imagine. If one of his characters did that in a movie, I know how I'd feel about that character, so what should I feel for Mr. Bale in real life? I'm not offended by his language as much as I am by the sheer belligerence. That's not how you treat colleagues no matter what they do short of something which would physically harm you.

[Tone2TheBone]

There's a guy that knows where he's goin'. I can't believe the DP didn't trash his lights out after his threat though. But then again who's making the money. But then again who's being the #@$*&^$ baby cry. I'd expect this kind of whining from Val but not Christian. I didn't know he had it in him.

[Spudman]

I can imagine how he could get bent out of shape: I know how deep you have to go to get a scene out of you and this scene was clearly interrupted.

Imagine if it was one that he had to dig up some really intense emotions. That is an incredibly hard thing to do and to get it on film. So in all fairness if I was digging that deeply and lost the shot because some goofball wasn't doing his job correctly I'd probably wig out too. I wouldn't want to go there again if I didn't have to. I hate going into some of my past emotions. It might be the same for him.

[Ch0jin]

Have a read of this. There are two side to every story :)

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39984

If that is true and the DOP trashed the most difficult scene in the film then I'd have let him know about it too.

No Harm, No Foul I say.

Lucky it wasn't Mark Wahlburg, I was reading about his training regime and the guy basically spends half his day boxing. Add that to the fact he's been known to throw a punch or two (and steal a car or two etc etc) it might have been lights out for the DP. (go the puns)

[Spudman]

Chojin's link:



Hey folks, Harry here... I'm getting slammed with assloads of people angry at me for not posting the Bale explosion from the set of McG's TERMINATOR: SALVATION. Well, first off - there's a real simple reason. It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news. It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale.




Now, I know what a lot of you are thinking... There's no excuse for a temper tantrum like that to ever occur and if you are going to act that way, you deserve to be embarrassed by your own actions.

Except, you want to hear the REALITY behind that clip?

I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is. And this person isn't a publicist, nor are they invested in Bale's career. They're just someone that thinks it is absolute bulls*** that this moment in Bale's life is being aired and that the real story should get out there.

The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. He's a fairly young DP and likes to fiddle with his lights on set during action, which is a big "NO NO" on most productions unless worked out in advance with performers. But apparently Shane was a pretty unrepentant light tweaker.

The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that s*** down before the scene starts.

Bale had indeed warned the DP on multiple occasions about messing with lights while the cameras were rolling, and Bale was in the midst of a painful scene with Bryce, what was described to me as being the emotional center of the film and his character for the film.

Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance.

You don't need me to give you a link, it's all over the internet, I just felt that you should know what really went down - and that this particular outburst did indeed modify the DP's behavior - and for future DPs. **** with the lights before and after your actors are acting. Not during.

[hagarfreak33]

I think the real bad news here is that there making yet another sequel to the Terminator:)

[Spudman]

I think the real bad news here is that there making yet another sequel to the Terminator:)

Hagarfreak scores! :bravo: That is the correct answer.

[Ch0jin]

Tru Dat.

Terminator = Classic
T2 = Classic

As far as I'm concerned there was nothing after that :)

[peachhead]

Wow. I can see both sides of the story I guess but...wow.

[BluesHowler]

Tru Dat.

Terminator = Classic
T2 = Classic

As far as I'm concerned there was nothing after that :)

+5! I'm a big fan of the original Terminator and Terminator 2 was also very good but the T3 sucked and I'm sure that the one in discussion here will suck also,

[Ch0jin]

+5! I'm a big fan of the original Terminator and Terminator 2 was also very good but the T3 sucked and I'm sure that the one in discussion here will suck also,

As did the Sarah Conner Chronicles or whatever that TV series was called.

Who'd have thought anyone could screw up hot girls with guns and robots.

[Jimi75]

If I get paid millions and millions of dollars, I would cut the scene another 1000 times. And I bet that the "other side of the story" is nicely constructed and published through the net by Bale's marketing company. There's always the chance to let somebody off because he is not capable and find someone new, no need to be insulting, no matter how emotional your scene is. Choice of words is below zero tolerance in this audio/video.

[R_of_G]

If I get paid millions and millions of dollars, I would cut the scene another 1000 times.

My thoughts exactly. If you're a professional, act like one. Sometimes things go wrong. Suck it up and do your job and don't act in an abusive manner to co-workers. I get that it would take a lot of effort for Bale to redo the scene in question, but that's what he gets paid to do. I'm pretty sure his contract for the film doesn't require that everything be done in a single take. Be a professional and do it again.

[tunghaichuan]

My thoughts exactly. If you're a professional, act like one. Sometimes things go wrong. Suck it up and do your job and don't act in an abusive manner to co-workers. I get that it would take a lot of effort for Bale to redo the scene in question, but that's what he gets paid to do. I'm pretty sure his contract for the film doesn't require that everything be done in a single take. Be a professional and do it again.

Not to mention that such an outburst in any American corporation would get the offending party terminated and escorted out the door by security within the hour.

tung

[R_of_G]

Not to mention that such an outburst in any American corporation would get the offending party terminated and escorted out the door by security within the hour.

tung

True indeed. Mr. Bale should be held to the same standards of professionalism as the rest of us.

[Spudman]

True indeed. Mr. Bale should be held to the same standards of professionalism as the rest of us.

And so should the lighting tech.

[R_of_G]

Without a doubt Spud, without a doubt. I think Bale is even well within his rights to express to the guy how much of a perceived hardship it creates for him and express that he is angry about it. There are ways to do so in a professional manner. He should pretend he's playing a part and that his character has some tact.

[tunghaichuan]

And so should the lighting tech.

Agreed. But what if the situation were reversed: the lighting tech cussed out Bale in the same manner? How long do you think the lighting tech would get to keep his job?

I think that the lighting tech should be held accountable for his mistake, but to be chewed out for 3+ minutes, threatened with losing his job, and threatened with assault. That is just unacceptable.

It comes down to that Bale is the star of the movie, so they need him. So he is pretty much termination proof (no pun intended.) He can get away with a lot of crap that just wouldn't fly anywhere else.

tung

[R_of_G]

I think that the lighting tech should be held accountable for his mistake...

In line with what you said, I'd add that I think he should be held accountable by the director or the producer, not the star. That kind of belligerence would be a bit much even for the director, but at least the director is the person to whom the lighting director answers, not the on-screen talent. I think Bale was out of line in at least two ways.

[tunghaichuan]

Bale apologizes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_en_mo/people_christian_bale

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20090206/en_movies_eo/98799

tung

[Robert]

Ahh, good Bale. The right thing to do at this point.

[peachhead]

My thoughts exactly. If you're a professional, act like one. Sometimes things go wrong. Suck it up and do your job and don't act in an abusive manner to co-workers. I get that it would take a lot of effort for Bale to redo the scene in question, but that's what he gets paid to do. I'm pretty sure his contract for the film doesn't require that everything be done in a single take. Be a professional and do it again.

Couldn't have said it any better. :AOK:

[piebaldpython]

Well, of course he apologized, it's called Damage Control. Kinda funny to me, how he finally comes out and apologizes so late in the scenario. It would have been a lot better if he gave a statement on the day the story broke saying that he acted wrongly. Then, it would have been over and done with and nipped in the bud.

I've made enough mistakes in my life and have found in EVERY instance, that iif ya step up to the plate right away and say that you SCREWED UP, that goes over a lot better than doing nothing. :beer:

[Robert]

He is layin out the cards on this radio show - http://www.kroq.com/