What about the other Fenders?

[Katastrophe]

We've been talking alot lately about Strats and Teles, along with the ever present Squier '51... But what about the other Fenders...

Iago has a Mustang, and a good lookin' one at that... What do you like / dislike about the guitar?

I saw a Showmaster today on Guitartrader (by the way, Hwy 1s are now down to $499.00:eek: ), and was floored by their beauty, especially the bubinga topped ones, which to me are very different... Anybody ever played one of these set-neck shredmeisters?

Jaguars and Jazzmasters: funky, retro, and cool looking. How do they play? Opinions?

I saw a Toronado as well... The more I look at the design, the more it grows on me... Whaddaya think?

And... How about the Cyclone? Different design, I think, and it looks like it could be at home either playing metal OR surf...

Discuss...:D

[Spudman]

What! There are other Fenders?!! Oh my, I feel more gas pains a comin.

I used to have a 64 Jaguar. The neck was really skinny. Perfect for a child I guess, but to skinny for my medium sized hands. I had a lot of problems with the switches too. They have a whole bunch of switches and extra volume knobs. Not my industrial cup of tea so to speak.

I also have one of the Squier Stagemasters with neck thru and it is way cool.

Still the one guitar that consistently gets me off is just a plain old Strat.

[tremoloman]

I tried starting discussions about Jazzmasters but nobody seems to have one or care. I for one am a huge Jazzmaster fan. I have to being a Robert Smith disciple. Robert, Jimi, and Nuno are the men who molded me. ;)

[SuperSwede]

The Jaguar has a really great sound, check out Red hot chili peppers "under the bridge".

The cyclone looks like a good guitar, its a short scale. It seems kinda similar to the ´51
http://www.gguitars.com/images/fe_electrics/fe_sq_cycl_rw_cbm_a.jpg

[kerc]

I've been gassing for a yellow Cyclone for quite a while... :D

[Iago]

I`ve been trying to start a 69 Mustang review a while ago, but I always give up on doing it... I feel really lazy just by thinking about it hehehehe...maybe I`ll do that late this night now, so you guys can check the "other models" thread tomorrow, it may be there! :D

I`d like to try a Jazzmaster though. And the Cyclone maybe be just the same as the 51 except for it having the tone control, and the mustang kind of body, and rosewood fretboard.

[tremoloman]

I bought a new Cyclone II back in 2004, but it was almost impossible to keep in tune. I also kept bumping the pickup switches while playing which resulted in losing tone and taking chunks of flesh from my hands. Not good.

If they ever made the Cyclone 25.5" scale I'd try one though. I love the yellow!

[Katastrophe]

I also kept bumping the pickup switches while playing which resulted in losing tone and taking chunks of flesh from my hands. Not good.


Dang! Looks like they should've taken the ol' Cyclone back to the ergonomic drawing board! That ain't right, I tell ya!

[player]

Well,Speaking of other Fenders I happen to own a 1966 Coronado lll Wildwood l no one seems to have seen or know about at least not til my former bass guitarist spotted Jimmy Vaughn using one on a PBS channel giving tribute to Jerry Reed Friday.he thinks it was an Austin City Limit spinoff and said mine was in better shape than his - interesting stuff considering not many were made.below is the guitar mentioned.

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_fender.jpg

[just strum]

Well,Speaking of other Fenders I happen to own a 1966 Coronado lll Wildwood l no one seems to have seen or know about at least not til my former bass guitarist spotted Jimmy Vaughn using one on a PBS channel giving tribute to Jerry Reed Friday.he thinks it was an Austin City Limit spinoff and said mine was in better shape than his - interesting stuff considering not many were made.below is the guitar mentioned.

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_fender.jpg


Nice, how about some more pics and larger - I wanna see that thing close up.

[player]

Well Strum ,Been trying to find a thread Put up long ago that showed a bunch of pics of it,no luck so far but will if I find the thread put it or them up for ya.it was one in which Robert stated he would like to get a 335 like guitar.

[markb]

Some of us believe Fender should have stopped at the Telecaster. Esquires are OK too :)

[tot_Ou_tard]

Some of us believe Fender should have stopped at the Telecaster. Esquires are OK too :)
Don'cha mean the Broadcaster? ;)

I like all those odd Fenders, in theory at least, I've never played one.

But given two guitars of about the same quality & with great playability & tone I'd take the odd duck over the well-known standard every time.

I'm a bit contrarian like that.

[pie_man_25]

I suppose the other fender models I've never commented on mainly because I've never played them. I have played the jaguar bass though, really nice(especially the red w/ painted headstock), just too many knobs, they should label that thing.

[markb]

To be serious, the one "odd" Fender I'd really like is a Bass VI. Move the strings over one, add a top A, and voila! the best baritone guitar ever made. I found one a few years ago, hesitated and when I went back, the shop had closed down!

[player]

Got something Strum - same guitar a little different shade color but you get the idea.its in the case. wish I could get or find bigger for ya.btw mine is the one not in a case
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_fender.jpg http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_1966 Coronadoll.jpg http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_FenderHeadstockview.jpg

[markb]

Got something Strum - same guitar a little different shade color but you get the idea.its in the case. wish I could get or find bigger for ya
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_fender.jpg http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_1966 Coronadoll.jpg http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_FenderHeadstockview.jpg

Did you know that that colour was produced by injecting beech trees with dyes? Scary, eh? Fender produced a whole series of wildwood guitars around the time of the CBS takeover.

[player]

Did you know that that colour was produced by injecting beech trees with dyes? Scary, eh? Fender produced a whole series of wildwood guitars around the time of the CBS takeover.


yes I found out from the place I bought it from in 66.scary? depends how you look at it in a way it was very ingenious,just too bad they tried to copy a Gibson style instead of using their own merits/ideas.
also noted was it was designed by a former Rickenbacker employee(Germany I believe) that Fender aquired outside the box.btw they say it was from the Antigua collection.those that I've seen are some Ugly guitar(s) finished.they also come in red that when fades looks simlar to what mine does that has always looked that way from day one.

[Buzzo]

Fender Mustangs are great! Its like having a mix of Strat and Tele. Alot of people dont likethem because they dont stay in tune. Well you have to set them up properly or just live with the tuning problems.

[Andy]

I had an old original mustang, great guitar but it always did have a tuning issue, that guitar taught me how to tweak on the fly.

It was faded orange with a blue stripe

just annother example of "I wish I still had it"

[bigoldron]

Well,Speaking of other Fenders I happen to own a 1966 Coronado lll Wildwood l no one seems to have seen or know about at least not til my former bass guitarist spotted Jimmy Vaughn using one on a PBS channel giving tribute to Jerry Reed Friday.he thinks it was an Austin City Limit spinoff and said mine was in better shape than his - interesting stuff considering not many were made.below is the guitar mentioned.

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_fender.jpg

My first guitar was a Fender Coronado II that was metallic green. I eventually traded it off. Man, I'm still kicking myself in the butt for that one... :thwap:

[player]

Sure hear that bigoldron.let someone use an SG I had long ago never saw it again.big time arse kicking myself for even letting it happen:reallymad:

[bigoldron]

Sure hear that bigoldron.let someone use an SG I had long ago never saw it again.big time arse kicking myself for even letting it happen:reallymad:

Young and stupid has a lot to do with it. For some strange reason, I wanted to trade for an acoustic that really wasn't bad, but eventually I traded it for crappy Epi 335 copy and wound up selling it and the rest of my equipment. That was back in the mid 80's. I only started back about 3 years ago and still ache for that Coronado. I saw one on Ebay about a year ago that was the same color and it sold for almost $1,700. Too rich for my blood... :thwap:

My brother had a Tele Deluxe (the one with 2 humbuckers and a Strat neck) and he sold it for college money about the same time that I traded off my Coronado. I see they're selling re-issues at MF for about $650. Another duh move... :thwap: :thwap:

[TS808]

Well,Speaking of other Fenders I happen to own a 1966 Coronado lll Wildwood l no one seems to have seen or know about at least not til my former bass guitarist spotted Jimmy Vaughn using one on a PBS channel giving tribute to Jerry Reed Friday.he thinks it was an Austin City Limit spinoff and said mine was in better shape than his - interesting stuff considering not many were made.below is the guitar mentioned.

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_fender.jpg

Wow! The Coronados were awesome guitars that I believe were made to compete with the Gibson hollow body guitars.....supposed to be excellent guitars. It's rare to see those. Congrats on a cool guitar!!

I owned one of the Mustang reissues in the early 90's, and although it wasn't a bad guitar, I didn't like the tailpiece/tremelo system...really difficult to keep in tune unless you use some really heavy strings.

[TS808]

What! There are other Fenders?!! Oh my, I feel more gas pains a comin.

I used to have a 64 Jaguar. The neck was really skinny. Perfect for a child I guess, but to skinny for my medium sized hands. I had a lot of problems with the switches too. They have a whole bunch of switches and extra volume knobs. Not my industrial cup of tea so to speak.

I also have one of the Squier Stagemasters with neck thru and it is way cool.

Still the one guitar that consistently gets me off is just a plain old Strat.
I agree...I love strats. I've tried other guitars from Les Pauls, to Teles, but always come back to the strat as my #1 guitar.

The Jaguars are very small scale...24" scale length in fact.

[player]

posted by bigoldron

Young and stupid has a lot to do with it. For some strange reason, I wanted to trade for an acoustic that really wasn't bad, but eventually I traded it for crappy Epi 335 copy and wound up selling it and the rest of my equipment. That was back in the mid 80's. I only started back about 3 years ago and still ache for that Coronado. I saw one on Ebay about a year ago that was the same color and it sold for almost $1,700. Too rich for my blood...

That was the kicker I was neither Young or stupid unless trusting your brother is stupid.let him borrow the SG not knowing he was going to let someone else use it that he never saw again either...very tough lesson learned :nono: just gotta say it from now on: No Way bro

[bigoldron]

That was the kicker I was neither Young or stupid unless trusting your brother is stupid.let him borrow the SG not knowing he was going to let someone else use it that he never saw again either...very tough lesson learned :nono: just gotta say it from now on: No Way bro

Amen to that! It's a shame you have to be that way but such is life. :mad:

[EnglishJW]

I tried starting discussions about Jazzmasters but nobody seems to have one or care. I for one am a huge Jazzmaster fan. I have to being a Robert Smith disciple. Robert, Jimi, and Nuno are the men who molded me. ;)

Back in the very early sixties the lead guitarist in my band played a rose colored Jazzmaster. I loved the sounds from that guitar and still think fondly of them. For many years, it was my favorite guitar. In spite of that, I ended up buying a Strat (having been a keyboard player) which I love.

[player]

like it too,in fact been trying to win one from the lead player of dinosaur jr,it is a good'n alright

[Auriemma]

In the very early 80's, I bought a 1969 Fender Mustang Competition for $200. One of the best guitars I bought. Very different from a Strat. I still pull it out once a week for fun.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3955/mustangfront.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6415/mustangbody.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4495/mustanghead.jpg

[player]

Dinosaur Jr. founder J Mascis has a real nice one also rose sparkle in color.the orange one is nice too although most seen when they are are powder or baby blue.saw white one in one in a town by the Tenessee/Ky border.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/market_03/th_01.jpg

[Duff]

I just got one of these. Awesome with mahogany body and mahogany set neck with two Seymour Duncan Humbuckers; reverse wound neck 59 and bridge Pearly Gates. Five way switch and coil tapping.

Very light guitar and awesome awesome tone. One of my best guitar purchases and totally consistent with my efforts to upgrade my collection of cheap guitars with some reasonably decent ones.

I will post some pictures when I take them. Strikingly beautiful.

[DrumBob]

I never owned a Jazzmaster until last year, and now, I find myself using it more and more. It's become my favorite of the three Fenders I own, but it was not without its issues and quirks, which I am still working on.

My JM is an MIJ, Candy Apple Red. The pickups sounded like ***-very weak and Strat-like, so I got rid of the bridge pickup and put a Seymour Hot For Jazzmaster in there. Now the volume balance is all off with the neck pickup. I spoke to Curt Novak a couple weeks ago, and might go with a couple of his pickups, which are hotter and evenly balanced. The bridge pickup is built like a P90.

Also, I had the usual problems with the low E popping out of the saddle, so I installed a buzz stop. That problem is solved.

I don't like the whammy bar at all. It was swinging freely, so I took it off, and a few weeks ago, the receptacle that holds it in has come loose under the bridge plate, so that needs to be fixed.

Other than that, the guitar plays great, stays in tune like a champ, and looks cool. I never leave for a gig without it.

[Tig]

I could easily see myself palying a Classic Player Jazzmaster Special...

http://www.fender.com/themes/products/images/prod_images/guitars/0141600300_md.jpg

Or the Elvis Costello Signature Jazzmaster...

http://www.fender.com/themes/products/images/prod_images/guitars/0115900892_md.jpg

[player]

Yes those do look nice dont they?could see myself with one someday too.

[markb]

It's funny, isn't it how Jazzmasters started out as Fender's "top of the range" guitar, then became the "poor man's Fender", and are now seen as exotic rarities?

Elvis Costello (and Tom Verlaine and J Mascis) bought Jazzmasters because they were vintage US guitars (and thus good working instruments) for a fraction of the price of (say) a Stratocaster. They were still relatively cheap well into the 90s. Now we only get expensive "signature" versions.

[Jimi75]

There was that really great "other" Fender, called Starcaster. I've heard people saying it was even beeter than a 335. Hopefully, one day Fender will reissue this guitar, maybe with a more attractive headstock. I just recently saw a band live on TV, I think it was the Killers, and their guitarist played a Starcaster. It had a great great tone.

http://www.nationwideguitars.com/images/1977%20Fender%20Starcaster%20004%20copy.jpg

[sunvalleylaw]

Wow, that is a cool looking guitar. I enjoy me some Killers. I will have to see if I can find some vid somewhere.

[Jimi75]

Wow, that is a cool looking guitar. I enjoy me some Killers. I will have to see if I can find some vid somewhere.

Fun band to listen and to watch. Here's a pic:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/The_Killers_in_concert.jpg

[Commodore 64]

The Jaguar has a really great sound, check out Red hot chili peppers "under the bridge".

The cyclone looks like a good guitar, its a short scale. It seems kinda similar to the ´51
http://www.gguitars.com/images/fe_electrics/fe_sq_cycl_rw_cbm_a.jpg

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/msg/1718243492.html

Squire 51 on CL with spider amp for $200.

[DrumBob]

I could easily see myself palying a Classic Player Jazzmaster Special...

http://www.fender.com/themes/products/images/prod_images/guitars/0141600300_md.jpg

Or the Elvis Costello Signature Jazzmaster...

http://www.fender.com/themes/products/images/prod_images/guitars/0115900892_md.jpg

I like that Classic Player JM better in black with the tortoiseshell pikguard.

[Tig]

I like that Classic Player JM better in black with the tortoiseshell pikguard.
I gotta' agree. I'm partial to tortoiseshell on black. :AOK

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3701528023_cfed795d2c_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2588/3702349384_51cf5aa289_o.jpg

[Katastrophe]

Holy thread resurrection, Batman! Notice that of the models mentioned at the beginning of this thread that there are a number of models discontinued at the big F.

Cyclone
Showmaster (beautiful guitars, IMO)
Toronado

I guess guitar players really are a rather conservative lot when it comes to guitar shapes, eh?

[Kestrel]

My CIJ Jaguar:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/Apollo3000/DSCN4505.jpg

I first encountered it in a small dusty and nasty little guitar shop in town. New old stock, neglected and not in the best of shape. Rusty strings, missing vibrato arm and lots of fret buzz. It was a bit of a pain to set up right, but in the end it was worth it. I love the guitar.

[player]

Didn't someone in The Vanilla Fudge have and play one?That goes back a ways so a lot won't remember em (feelin ancient) :thwap

[Katastrophe]

Hey, player, I noticed in a local guitar shop a Coronado Wildwood that looks like yours.

Beautiful guitar!

[tremoloman]

In the very early 80's, I bought a 1969 Fender Mustang Competition for $200. One of the best guitars I bought. Very different from a Strat. I still pull it out once a week for fun.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3955/mustangfront.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6415/mustangbody.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4495/mustanghead.jpg

That guitar is freaking gorgeous... :drool:

[player]

Hey, player, I noticed in a local guitar shop a Coronado Wildwood that looks like yours.

Beautiful guitar!Maybe Jimmie Vaughn put his up for sale LOL.they are nice though,likely pricey too given not many were made.

[otaypanky]

That guitar is freaking gorgeous... :drool:

I like that one a lot too ~

Here's a Prodigy that's looking for a loving home ~

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/otaypanky/DSCF0001-1.jpg

[Auriemma]

That guitar is freaking gorgeous... :drool:
Thanks... did I mention she is original? (exception: replaced the slide switches with Fender OEMs) I still have the bridge cover too, but I need to find a trem bar (lost long before I got her).

BTW: Stays in tune just fine.

[player]

Thanks... did I mention she is original? (exception: replaced the slide switches with Fender OEMs) I still have the bridge cover too, but I need to find a trem bar (lost long before I got her).

BTW: Stays in tune just fine.I have an extra trem PM me.a tad larger than normal Strat trems diameter wise you can have.

[Auriemma]

I have an extra trem PM me.a tad larger than normal Strat trems diameter wise you can have.
PM sent... Thanks!

[player]

PM sent... Thanks! PM read awaiting a reply.one detail mentioned may not jive.

[Auriemma]

Player... the trem bar fits and screws in no less. No mod needed. I can adjust the set screw to adjust the tightness.

Thanks!

[gregsguitars]

For me nothing beats a Tele, took me 14 years to find "The Strat" I liked, jags and other Fender models all have funky bridge setups that leave a little to be desired, bottom line ....get what you like and play.

[andyguitar85]

This is my Jaguar HH Special and I love it. Get a great sound from it and it looks awesome

http://chambersguitars.net/main/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/cbfef78f38d7fdb388286f7604efbc0e.jpg

EDIT : Sorry, no idea why its not displaying the image

[player]

This is my Jaguar HH Special and I love it. Get a great sound from it and it looks awesome

http://chambersguitars.net/main/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/cbfef78f38d7fdb388286f7604efbc0e.jpg

EDIT : Sorry, no idea why its not displaying the imageIf it is Black it is showing Andy.nice axe man. :digit

[andyguitar85]

If it is Black it is showing Andy.nice axe man. :digit

Cheers man. For some reason images are not showing when I login, but they show when I am not logged in. Random :D

[player]

That is strange. this http://www.thefret.net/imagehosting/thum_9404c201793138a8.jpg beauty is going to see what it is worth in August at a roadshow,if I hear the right number she'll go but has to be one that allows for other better gear.

[panther289]

Hello all, Long time lurker here.
Have the Strat ssh and the standard Tele and love them both. Tried a friends Jaguar back in the 80's and didn't feel the love. About 4 months or so ago I noticed the Classic Player Jaguar Special HH at a shop and had to ask about the "mess of switches" and the buckers on it. The young lady handed it to me and proceeded to explain the setup. After about an hour of testing it out I left. Mistake, it was sold before I got back there. Well needless to say, I hunted one down and I have enjoyed playing it every chance I get. Unique even by Jaguar standards.

[player]

Welcome to the fret panther you will like it here.I hear that.been hunting down a Hagstrom Viking in case my Fender does sell in August .like the Jazzmaster myself as it is much like a Jaguar with buckers and trem

[panther289]

Thanks Player,
Still getting use to the tremolo. So use to the Strat tremolo that setting up the Jag with flatwound 11's I can't seem to get much response from it. Basically have to divebomb the Jag to get any effect. The devil's always in the setup though.

[player]

that you Joe? if memory serves I sent the trem to your office.thought it for a Mustang though.yes setup,getting used to em can be a bugger.

[panther289]

that you Joe? if memory serves I sent the trem to your office.thought it for a Mustang though.yes setup,getting used to em can be a bugger.
Nope, not Joe, just a newbe to the Jags. Name is Bryan. :)

[player]

Thanks Player,
Still getting use to the tremolo. So use to the Strat tremolo that setting up the Jag with flatwound 11's I can't seem to get much response from it. Basically have to divebomb the Jag to get any effect. The devil's always in the setup though.greetings Bryan I sent a trem to someone named Joe who said it fit or worked without much modification that is where the is that you Joe came from.This forum is top notch We think you wil like it here.