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just strum
February 8th, 2009, 03:35 PM
One of my daughters friends is interested in buying my Washburn, but I am reluctant to sell it. I would like to give the kid a lesson in buying a guitar, so he can make wise decisions now and in the future.

The kid just stares at the Washburn and was only at the house when the pups were being swapped out, so he has yet to hear it play. Essentially he is caught up in "eye candy". To be fair to him, I want him to go out and test drive some other guitars. I think if I keep him in the $250 to $375, I will be directing him in his price range.

I know Epi has some models that would catch his interest as it relates to body style (LP), but I would want to suggest some others. He has a Squier Strat, but he is not pleased with it (most likely the very low end of Squier). Another one I was thinking is the Ibanez ART100 ($299).

Any suggestions?


Edit: I just checked out the ART100 and they have a new color being released (previously only black, silver, or white)

http://www.ibanez.com/eg/guitar.aspx?m=ART100&c=SV

It has me gassing - maybe I will sell the Washburn and buy one of the ART100's:D

Robert
February 8th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Haven't tried this one but it might a good one. ESP.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-EC50-Electric-Guitar?sku=516672

But this one is sure inexpensive. Epi LP Special II. $169.00

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Special-II-Electric-Guitar?sku=518334

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 03:45 PM
I was looking at ESP's the other day. I never paid much attention to them and really don't know any pros or cons on them. They appear to be a decent guitar.

I'll add it to the list to have him check out.

ted s
February 8th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Mark, as long as you keep him away from pointy guitars, he'll be ok.
Might poke his eye out.

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Define "inexpensive"?
I'm getting a new model LP Ultra so my other Ultra will be up for grabs.

Blaze
February 8th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Canadian money !!

http://www.lamusic.ca/default.asp?szNav=Product&PID=253#http://www.lamusic.ca/default.asp?szNav=Product&PID=253#

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 05:16 PM
Define "inexpensive"?
I'm getting a new model LP Ultra so my other Ultra will be up for grabs.

$250 to $375


Canadian money !!

http://www.lamusic.ca/default.asp?szNav=Product&PID=253#http://www.lamusic.ca/default.asp?szNav=Product&PID=253#

That's the same as Robert suggested, but guitar only - it's been added to the list.

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 05:22 PM
$250 to $375.
For you... could be do-able.

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 05:44 PM
For you... could be do-able.

That's my fear - In teaching a kid to shop, research, and then buy, I may end up being the one buying.

I'll PM my e-mail for some pics.

Uhhgghhhh, I'm heading down the wrong road.

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 06:02 PM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/RocketWorks/Guitars/Epiphone/LP%20Ultra/Ultra.jpghttp://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/RocketWorks/Guitars/Epiphone/LP%20Ultra/LPUlt.jpg

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 06:06 PM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/RocketWorks/Guitars/Epiphone/LP%20Ultra/Ultra.jpghttp://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/RocketWorks/Guitars/Epiphone/LP%20Ultra/LPUlt.jpg

Hmm, It doesn't come with the shirt does it?

Robert, do you see what's in the background? Rocket is deaf.

Old pic Rocket, or just didn't grow back the hair?

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 06:19 PM
Old pic w/old-man ponytail... sans goatee & moustache, (which have since somehow reappeared !)

Ultra is an unusually great rocker/blues unit... the chambered body gives it a very unique growl and the contoured backside makes it extremely comfortable:

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/RocketWorks/Guitars/Epiphone/LP%20Ultra/LesPaulUltrachamber.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/RocketWorks/Guitars/Epiphone/LP%20Ultra/LesPaulUltraback.jpg

sunvalleylaw
February 8th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Mmmm, good. I like the look of an Ultra. I like those contours. I did not know about those.

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 06:26 PM
Old pic w/old-man ponytail... sans goatee & moustache, (which have since somehow reappeared !)

Ultra is an unusually great rocker/blues unit... the chambered body gives it a very unique growl and the contoured backside makes it extremely comfortable:


Crap, the wife is going to kill me.

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Oh... and a full lb lighter than standard LP with slippery satin neck.

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Oh... and a full lb lighter than standard LP with slippery satin neck.

Oh, well forget it then.

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Meh, suits me... it'll sell easy enough.

evenkeel
February 8th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Ok Strum.. Stop messing around and buy the damn thing. :poke:

You know you're going to.

Killer guitar, rocket endorsed, how can you miss. :D

Robert
February 8th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Looks like a JCM2000 DSL in the photo.

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Meh, suits me... it'll sell easy enough.

it was humor, but obviously a failed attempt. If you recall, I am anal about guitar weight and like them light (so I can spin them around my neck).

I already started hinting to my wife - got the evil eye. Any of you ever seen the evil eye? Can scare the crap out of ya.

Oh and keel, my wife said to tell you to - shut up!!!

just strum
February 8th, 2009, 07:15 PM
I'm giving this some serious thought.

These things always seem to have bad timing, but hey, been here before.

Blaze
February 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM
I am ''anal" about guitar weight
What does it mean ?





How about this one ? I ll make a good price ...

1741 clic me

Rocket
February 8th, 2009, 07:36 PM
I knew it was a joke... I'm still laughing on inside.

Tell wife it's for her... works for me!

peachhead
February 8th, 2009, 08:42 PM
Strummy, you need to buy the damn thing so I can stop thinking about it.

Katastrophe
February 8th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Oh, stop the anguish.

Buy it, Strummy. You know you want to.:D :poke:

duhvoodooman
February 9th, 2009, 06:07 AM
Don't I recall mention of some kid who wanted a guitar back around the start of this thread? :thwap: :rolleyes:

piebaldpython
February 9th, 2009, 09:21 AM
Well Strum....I am LMAO over this and how you might wind up with the git instead of your daughter's friend...:rotflmao:.....however, DVM is right, what about the young man?.....to that end, how about XAVIERE guitars??
They seem to have a good rep around here........and if he doesn't like it, you'll probably fall in love with it and take it off his hands. :D :poke:

oldguy
February 9th, 2009, 09:41 AM
Agile's not a bad little Korean brand, either.
You and the boy could sit down and pick together when you get your new axe..................

just strum
February 9th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Don't I recall mention of some kid who wanted a guitar back around the start of this thread? :thwap: :rolleyes:

You're right. He wanted the Washburn and the RP350 and that isn't a dead issue. I want him to go out and look at some of the guitars suggested early on in this thread. It would be nice if he purchased my Washburn and RP350, but I want him to learn not to be attracted to eye candy. Although at times I may not be the one to teach that, all of my guitars can be sold for more than I paid for them. I could have easily pushed the purchase, but despite what the perception is here, I am not going to just focus on a sale.

As for the LP, I may have to reluctantly pass this time around. It isn't the first time I had to walk away, and it won't be the last. Despite that, the pain never seems to lessen.

just strum
February 9th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Agile's not a bad little Korean brand, either.
You and the boy could sit down and pick together when you get your new axe..................

My concern with Agile, he can't test drive one.

I've heard good and bad about Agile (as with many brands). My other issue with them, people seem to accept the flaws. That would be ok if they told you about the flaws up front. However, I do read here and other forums where people are happy with them.

R.B. Huckleberry
February 9th, 2009, 10:08 PM
I was looking at ESP's the other day. I never paid much attention to them and really don't know any pros or cons on them. They appear to be a decent guitar.

I'll add it to the list to have him check out.


Re: the ESP,

My wife won this model (next step up from the one origiannly linked) in a raffle at a Joe Stump/ESP clinic. Naturally, I ended up with it.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-LTD-EC100QM-Electric-Guitar?sku=516637


These guitars seem really good for the money. Mine's the 2007 version: bolt-on neck/agathis body/quilted veneer. I pull it out from time to time, and get my metal on.

msteeln
February 9th, 2009, 10:08 PM
A TF search yielded nothing on these - www.maldenguitars.com
Great reviews concerning even the lower priced models (Stiger) and solid bodies.

Duff49
February 14th, 2009, 10:29 PM
I find the ESP LTDs to be neat guitars. I have a EC 50 and a Viper 50, both beginner level guitars but really high quality. They both sound great with stock ESP pickups and are hot. The wood is agathis on th LP copy EC and the Viper copy of an SG is a basswood body, bolt ons, but solid guitars.

The prices are higher now, around 280 for either of them.

A Squire Classic Vibe is right in the same price range, as well as the Vintage Modifieds, and Deluxes. That blue Deluxe is mighty beautiful.

I'd say that the Epiphones' are not of the same quality of the above guitars until you get into a Epi LP Studio or G-400 or the SG '66 copy with the full pickguard. These, I believe are at least a hundred more than the ESP's and Squires mentioned above.

Also, those Squire Standard strats are nice as well as the Standard telecasters which are about 199 I think and I have found mine to be really decent. I have a Cherry Sunburst Standard strat and a Walnut satin stained telecaster standard. The Walnut std tele just got upgraded with a Fender Custom Shop, like new, Texas Special bridge pup, rated at 10.5k ohms. I soldered it in just doing a direct replacement, just a slightly different wiring plan with two grounds on the pickup; I soldered them both down and it is VERY quiet for a single coil but it's a Custom Shop pickup too.

Those Peavey Generation EX telecaster style guitars are great and probably are still selling for 149 at uncleikes.com in the standard tele form or the triple single form, the Gen EX Vintage form has a chrome covered vintage wound full sized humbucker in the neck and a standard Peavey bridge tele pickup and is one awesome guitar; sounding, feeling, playing, and looking. Those little known gems originally sold for a lot of money on places like MF and are now way down. The Gen EX Custom is only 199 at MF and used to be like 700 or so and is a dual HB tele with a hybrid set up and piezo bridge saddle pickups and pcb board acoustic modelling, is stereo, auto switching for using two amps or just one amp. When you use one amp the acoustic and HB sounds both go to the guitar amp. When you use the included "Y" adaptor to run it stereo, you run one cord to the guitar amp and the acoustic feed to the acoustic guitar amp. This way the guitar is truly stereo and sounds incredible but blended thru a regular amp you can get some great tones. Vintage wound dual humbuckers on that top of the Generation EX Peavey guitar line.

So for a slow as 149 you can get a great sounding Peavey telecaster and it is built great and has vintage vibes.

Didn't you already have one of these? The triple single?

Hope this helps.




Duffy

Peace

just strum
February 15th, 2009, 07:53 AM
Just to update:

The Washburn is still here and will probably remain here for the foreseeable future.

The RP350 is probably gone with three people interested including one fretter.

The kid that was going to buy my Washburn and the same kid that I have been passing on these suggestions to, can't decide what he wants to do. It's not a case of what guitar now, it's a case he's not sure that he wants to buy one at this time (he has a true making of a Fretter).

Duffy, I had the Peavey Triple Single, sold it to Ronnie, who sold it to ?

I liked it, but it wasn't at the top of the guitars I had at the time. I am not a Tele guy, although when I went to the shop and played some Fender, I understand the attraction by the Tele fan base.

I may just keep the Washburn. It's an easy playing guitar, has b's, and since it's not in "as new" condition, it's a good one to leave sitting out for easy access and just plain kickin around.

Blaze
February 15th, 2009, 07:59 AM
A nice chinese fake copy

http://www.ioffer.com/i/Gibson-ES-335-Electric-Guitar-Cherry-Finished--96417431