Michael Jackson dead at 50

[Spudman]

Posted Jun 25th 2009 5:20PM by TMZ Staff
We've just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.

Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hills home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.

A source tells us Jackson was dead when paramedics arrived.

Once at the hospital, the staff tried to resuscitate him but he was completely unresponsive.

We're told one of the staff members at Jackson's home called 911.

La Toya ran in the hospital sobbing after Jackson was pronounced dead.

Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

[sunvalleylaw]

CNN is not saying he has died yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html EDIT: CNN now confirms it.

The whole Michael Jackson story is sad to me. As a kid, I watched his early stuff which I enjoyed very much with the Jackson 5 on TV. His adult life, or what I know of it from the news, is sad. I wish him and his family the best.

[hubberjub]

I just opened AOL and they report that he died after suffering cardac arrest. Crazy.

[Jimi75]

I am watching CNN and it has not been confirmed. He's in a coma. My prayers go out to MJ tonight. I hope he's gonna make it.

[sunvalleylaw]

Jimi, CNN just updated and confirmed his death. Again, my prayers and condolences go to his family, and prayers for him. Very sad.

Farrah Fawcett also today, lost her battle with cancer. My prayers and condolences to her family and her as well. A sad day in the entertainment industry.

[Robert]

Sad and surprising news. My condolences to both families.

[R_of_G]

Very sad for the Jackson family. Whatever some (myself included) may feel about the man's personal life, he was still someone's brother and son and father and for those people, this is a very difficult time.

[Jimi75]

I was watching CNN until they confirmed Michael's death, which was 01:40h in the night here in Germany. Michael Jackson is the perfect example of how "deadly" the cocktail of social predjudices, a bad childhood, not accepting yourself and of course our "best friend" the media can be. I feel very sorry for his friends and family, for his fans and for the man himself who never seemed to be happy, who helped a bunch of people, who had his crazy moments, but who was a genious of a musician! I think no one of my generation can deny not having been fascinated in the 80's by his music, videos, dancing and live performances. May he rest in peace and find his freedom.

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[Rx Tone]

IMichael Jackson is the perfect example of how "deadly" the cocktail of social predjudices, a bad childhood not accepting yourself and of course our "best friend" the media can be....



Specifically which "deadly" "social prejudices" are you referring to and how did they affect him? Was he underprivileged?..discriminated against?

What about his childhood was "deadly"?

What did "the media" do to him that was "deadly"?

...he died of a heart attack...Social prejudice didn't kill him, "Bad childhood" didn't kill him..(Define what you mean by "bad childhood"),
"not accepting himself" (whatever that means) didn't kill him, and "the media" didn't kill him.
It was just a heart attack.

[Jimi75]

Specifically which "deadly" "social prejudices" are you referring to and how did they affect him? Was he underprivileged?..discriminated against?

What about his childhood was "deadly"?

What did "the media" do to him that was "deadly"?

...he died of a heart attack...Social prejudice didn't kill him, "Bad childhood" didn't kill him..(Define what you mean by "bad childhood"),
"not accepting himself" (whatever that means) didn't kill him, and "the media" didn't kill him.
It was just a heart attack.

Sorry RX Tone, but I am not willing to justify or explain in this case. A.m. are my uttered feelings and opinion. Thanks for your understanding and for not pushing.

[Kazz]

Specifically which "deadly" "social prejudices" are you referring to and how did they affect him? Was he underprivileged?..discriminated against?

What about his childhood was "deadly"?

What did "the media" do to him that was "deadly"?

...he died of a heart attack...Social prejudice didn't kill him, "Bad childhood" didn't kill him..(Define what you mean by "bad childhood"),
"not accepting himself" (whatever that means) didn't kill him, and "the media" didn't kill him.
It was just a heart attack.



Maybe so....but do you really think the life he led for the last 20 years was all that great? He became a recluse. Constantly seeking plastic surgery to alter his perception of himself. You have to think that Papa Joe had something to do with the troubled soul that was the King of Pop.

[Rx Tone]

ok...the life he led was the one he chose...Blame anyone you want...
MJ did whatever MJ wanted to, whenever he wanted and to whomever he wanted to...

He made his own choices and doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him.

Amateur psychoanalysis is useless. Look at the ACTIONS of people and the choices they make, regardless of what YOU perceive as their motivation.
"Action" is reality. "Cause" is speculation.

[Lev]

He made his own choices and doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him.

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I don't think he necessarily chose his childhood - growing up on the road in the media spotlight with a demanding parent.. I think we are all somewhat of a product of our childhood but I'm not trying to excuse his eccentric/inappropriate behaviour ove the last 15 years, more give some context to it.

I have mixed feelings on this subject today. For me the Michael Jackson that I idolized as a child died in the early nineties, so it's hard to feel too much grief today.

[kiteman]

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/06/26/2009062600314.html

[Perfect Stranger]

Poor Farah Fawcett she finally goes and dies and damn if Micheal Jackson doesn't upstage her! She would have been the headline for a week........as it is she didn't last 4 hours. She always did everything at the wrong time.* She quit Charlie's Angels at the wrong time, she got married at the wrong time.* Everything.* She tried so hard to live.

I feel for her....she may not have been an Angel (pun intended) but she didn't ask for her ordeal. I feel no sympathy at all for a child molester! He deserved everything he got and then some. And he asked for it all.....

[wingsdad]

With Ed McMahon passing a day before, then the news of Farah Fawcett losing her courageous battle followed just hours later by the announcement from a co-worker who rushed in from another department with "Michael Jackson died!!!", my initial, knee-jerk reaction was thoughtless, heartless and cynical, and I'll bet I wasn't the only fool on earth who shot back:

"Yeah? So, what's the punch line?"

:o


... It was just a heart attack.
A simplistic initial dx for the media to hang a hat on. Discovered in cardiac arrest and not breathing, no pulse, by a staff member who called 911.

:whatever:

We'll see what the autopsy and toxicology tests reveal about what may have caused his body to quit living.

Regardless of any speculation about why or how he evolved into the personna he became over the last 25 or so years of his life on this planet, I couldn't agree more with:

...I feel very sorry for his friends and family, for his fans and for the man himself who never seemed to be happy, who helped a bunch of people, who had his crazy moments, but who was a genious of a musician! ...

... May he rest in peace and find his freedom.

:( Unless one is perfect, one has never sinned against another human or done anyone or anything wrong, what gives anyone the right to barbarically vilify or crucify the man?

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[Perfect Stranger]

Regardless of any speculation about why or how he evolved into the personna he became over the last 25 or so years of his life on this planet, I couldn't agree more with:

Unless one is perfect, one has never sinned against another human or done anyone or anything wrong, what gives anyone the right to barbarically vilify or crucify the man?

Because...HE WAS A CHILD MOLESTER....I'll even give you "genius" CHILD MOLESTER! I may have sinned plenty in my life.....but I NEVER molested a child. That gives me the right to barbarically vilify him...

[sunvalleylaw]

Please all, the man died. Let us leave it and not debate his life further.

[Perfect Stranger]

Please all, the man died. Let us leave it and not debate his life further.

Yes, you're right. I apologize...

[Kazz]

Please all, the man died. Let us leave it and not debate his life further.


I concur...regardless of what he may or may not have done...respect the fact that he is dead. He left us with a legacy of great music.

[ibanezjunkie]

i feel the need to say these things, as they usually leads to disrespect to Jacko if they arent understood.

1. he was NEVER convicted of paedophillia, the charges were dropped against him due to lack of evidence.

2. He never chose to go white, he had a skin disease which caused white patches on his face and body, he had surgery to make him look normal, but unfortunately they couldn't return his natural skin colour.

2. his nose is NOT removable.

[ibanezjunkie]

Because...HE WAS A CHILD MOLESTER....I'll even give you "genius" CHILD MOLESTER! I may have sinned plenty in my life.....but I NEVER molested a child. That gives me the right to barbarically vilify him...

the charges were dropped, no evidence he ever did anything wrong at all.

[Perfect Stranger]

the charges were dropped, no evidence he ever did anything wrong at all.

:thwap:

[duhvoodooman]

Since I have edit rights in this subforum, I took care of the offending clause in the above posts.

Enough with the back & forth over MJ's alleged character faults, please. This is an obviously divisive subject. Any more of this thrust & parry and the thread will be deleted.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming....

[Jimi75]

Since I have edit rights in this subforum, I took care of the offending clause in the above posts.

Enough with the back & forth over MJ's alleged character faults, please. This is an obviously divisive subject. Any more of this thrust & parry and the thread will be deleted.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming....

Thank you DVM! I was highly surprised by the "new" level of disrespect we have reached in this thread.

[guitartango]

Like Elvis and Lennon, both live on through their music. He may be a wacko, but there is only one Jacko !

[pes_laul]

Now I wasn't the biggest fan I can say his music certainly was original at the time.

[ted s]

Never was a fan and never considered him a musical genius.
He had some crazy times for sure.

[TS808]

When I see things like this (Michael Jackson dying), my first thought was the guy was a human trainwreck. I'm not saying that mean-spirited, or sarcastic, or to demean him. My point is, I can't understand what happens sometimes to athletes, movie stars, and musicians where they get a taste of success and slowly but surely self-sabotage their lives, whether through drugs, criminal activity, or some other self-destructive behavior.

I've seen situations like this many times when I was doing clinical work in addictions treatment, working with professional athletes, doctors, lawyers, etc.

I guess it goes to show that certain things like addiction, mental illness, etc., does not discriminate against anyone.

[bigG]

Never was a fan and never considered him a musical genius.
He had some crazy times for sure.

Agreed...

[just strum]

Despite opinions and facts, MJ, his life, his accomplishments, and his family will remain in the spotlight in both positive and negative facts and fiction.

Debate on if you like, but it will not lead you anywhere.

[Spudman]

I was watching CNN until they confirmed Michael's death, which was 01:40h in the night here in Germany. Michael Jackson is the perfect example of how "deadly" the cocktail of social predjudices, a bad childhood, not accepting yourself and of course our "best friend" the media can be. I feel very sorry for his friends and family, for his fans and for the man himself who never seemed to be happy, who helped a bunch of people, who had his crazy moments, but who was a genious of a musician! I think no one of my generation can deny not having been fascinated in the 80's by his music, videos, dancing and live performances. May he rest in peace and find his freedom.



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[bigG]

I tried to remain out of this one, and should have. But when I saw ted's reply, I had to post.

I felt some sadness when John Lennon died, and the same w George Harrison and Keith Moon and John Entwhistle. I guess it's a personal, subjective thing obviously.

But endless hours upon hours of the death of Michael Jackson coverage on seemingly every TV channel is just a wee bit much. Again, I feel for his family and friends...and fans. But headline it, spend a LITTLE time on it, and let it go. If any fowl play was involved, then headline it again...

My 2 cents.

[guitartango]

I don't know, but maybe it's better for pop stars to die young(er). Can you image a 70 year old Michael Jackson doing thriller or singing Beat it at Wimbledon. For those who don't know, our Peter Pan of Pop (Cliff Richard) sang Summer holiday in the rain at Wimbledon and continues to make c*** records.

[kiteman]

When I see things like this (Michael Jackson dying), my first thought was the guy was a human trainwreck. I'm not saying that mean-spirited, or sarcastic, or to demean him. My point is, I can't understand what happens sometimes to athletes, movie stars, and musicians where they get a taste of success and slowly but surely self-sabotage their lives, whether through drugs, criminal activity, or some other self-destructive behavior.

I've seen situations like this many times when I was doing clinical work in addictions treatment, working with professional athletes, doctors, lawyers, etc.

I guess it goes to show that certain things like addiction, mental illness, etc., does not discriminate against anyone.

It's the freedom with money. That'll do ya.

[TS808]

It's the freedom with money. That'll do ya.

Wise words indeed...with the money comes along many so-called "friends" who really don't have the person's best interest at heart....just along for the ride. Sad indeed.

[just strum]

Wise words indeed...with the money comes along many so-called "friends" who really don't have the person's best interest at heart....just along for the ride. Sad indeed.

and the ride shall continue.

On a positive note: Despite my feelings or views, I always enjoy Smooth Criminal - the song and the video.

I also like Alien Ant Farm's version.

[Childbride]

i deeply feel for his children.

[Blaze]

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