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ibanezjunkie
July 14th, 2009, 03:26 PM
personally i hate them, the cleans lack definition and the overdrive is horrible in my opinion. I was browsing some rigs on a site somwhere and found that the guy from Static X uses MG100HDFX heads.

:poke:

so what are the fretters' opinions on them?

Tone2TheBone
July 14th, 2009, 03:37 PM
My neighbor across the street has an MG 100 watt half stack. Mini 4x12 cabinet. I play through it sometimes when we get together for beer drinking and jam sessions and in that context it does a decent enough job. It's pretty loud for being solid state. I won't get crystal clear cleans out of it like I would with say a Roland Jazz Chorus but it's no big deal we're jamming it up. The distortion isn't mind boggling and toney but it's not bad for playing old school AC/DC songs or something like that. In comparison I have a Silver Jubilee Marshall 50 watt at home but that's apples and oranges now. The MGs are fun enough IMO.

ibanezjunkie
July 14th, 2009, 03:41 PM
the thing i dont quite understand, is the fact that they are pretty much the bottom of the line practise amp, only good in a bedroom situation, so surely the 30 watt models would be big enough.

read that quote on the marshall site from wylde? soul crushing maybe, definately not bone crushing.

Robert
July 14th, 2009, 04:05 PM
My opinion? They suck.

ibanezjunkie
July 14th, 2009, 04:10 PM
i could have guessed that robert :rotflmao:

MG compared to a JVM? no competition what so ever.

i watched a youtube flick of a man comparing an MG100HDFX and a DSL 100 head.

i remember commenting, you feel the need to compare?

sumitomo
July 14th, 2009, 07:25 PM
My opinion? They suck.

I like it,an honest answer,you hear that Marshall they suck so quit making them and start making the old Silver Jub.Something that sounds good!:dude: :rockon: Sumi:D

ibanezjunkie
July 15th, 2009, 02:35 AM
Marshall are delusional to how crap their new lines are.

the Mode 4 head is as expensive as a DSL 100 around here, nearing up on £800 and all it generally is is a large 4 channel MG.

this always makes me laugh: "Pure Analogue Marshall tone''

considering they feature digital effects, and sound like pure crap, no part of that statement is true.

ever noticed how companies like Blackheart, Laney, Hiwatt, Orange and Vox do 'The Marshall Sound (EL84/34)' so much better than most marshalls do?

the only marshalls id buy would be one of the JVM series, which are all £1000+.

TS808
July 15th, 2009, 07:00 AM
When dealing with amps like the MG series, I think it's important to keep it in perspective: they are inexpensive, entry-level amps. For someone to expect that they are going to get the same tones from an MG series amp as they would a Silver Jubilee or Plexi is unrealistic.

It's kind of like the Line 6 Spider III's, Fender Frontman amps and a few others. They are good entry level amps that provide decent (but not overwhelming) tones and are often a starting point for alot of guitarists before they move on to something better.

Probably most of us started out with some "sub-par" solid state amp along the way somewhere, and as our playing got better, we got better gear.

I've seen some YouTube clips of guys playing through MG series amps and they made them sound pretty good.

ibanezjunkie
July 15th, 2009, 07:17 AM
problem is, most of the videos are secretly utillising an EQ and/or distortion pedal. i played an mg a while back, the drive channel is weak and muddy, and you cant really get much midrange.

the cleans are alright, but yet again they lack definition and mid and low range frequencies.

buy why get an MG when you can get a valve junior, vypyr, cube, peavey nano, H&L edition blue...etc.

TS808
July 16th, 2009, 09:56 AM
problem is, most of the videos are secretly utillising an EQ and/or distortion pedal. i played an mg a while back, the drive channel is weak and muddy, and you cant really get much midrange.

the cleans are alright, but yet again they lack definition and mid and low range frequencies.

buy why get an MG when you can get a valve junior, vypyr, cube, peavey nano, H&L edition blue...etc.

I think the Marshall MG series is marketed for those folks who want a Marshall stack but can't afford the tube versions; much like the Fender Frontman. They are pretty much entry level amps. I owned an MG100 Head and didn't like the tones at all and wound up selling it, but again, I think we have to keep it in perspective that it's an entry level amp and isn't going to sound as good as a "real" marshall (Plexi, JCM 800).

There's obviously a market out there for amps like the MG series, Frontman amps, etc. I remember my first few amps being Fender solid states.

kiteman
July 16th, 2009, 04:57 PM
My $399 Windsor 100 watt tubed halfstack will make those overpriced MGs cry.

:whatever:

ibanezjunkie
July 17th, 2009, 04:27 AM
i hope you have better speakers than the stock windsor ones, the stock peavey speakers in the windsor and valvekings suuck.

kiteman
July 17th, 2009, 06:07 AM
Nope, they're stock. :)

ibanezjunkie
July 17th, 2009, 06:29 AM
found a way to make your self sound awesome?

are you on a budget? i know how expensive refitting a 4x12 can be :rotflmao:

Celestion G12H 35w speakers are about £70 now, and i bought 4 of them.

kiteman
July 17th, 2009, 06:40 AM
They sound pretty good as it is. Sounded good with my Handsome Devil head on it. All British tone. :)

Then again I'm not a bastard about tones. :rotflmao:

marnold
July 17th, 2009, 07:48 AM
You'll find that there are more than a few people who like the stock Peavey speakers. Whether you'd agree with that is another matter.

Back on topic, I played through an MG when I was first shopping for an electric. Played a Dean fat Strat through it and got some nice cleans that I liked quite a bit. At that time, I didn't try the distortion. Subsequently, I've found that I don't care for it that much. I like the sound of my Vox's UK70s and UK Modern better than that.

ibanezjunkie
July 25th, 2009, 02:59 PM
how about this tone/amp-clueless muppet?

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pes_laul
July 26th, 2009, 09:54 AM
Yeah I know my dad's friend's band, their guitar player has a 74 les paul and one of those MG half stacks and what a pile of tonecrap he let's out.

But of course it's a les paul and a marshall so it has to be better than what I got:whatever:

Katastrophe
July 26th, 2009, 12:45 PM
I've played on three different MG amphs, and, well, I just didn't like the tones.

I've had much better luck playing through a vypyr, or a vox, than with the Marshall. Then again, they are entry level amphs and have that pretty Marshall script on the front.

wingsdad
July 26th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Before they were the Marshall MG series, about 12-15 years ago, they were made in Korea for Marshall and bore the subsidiary brand name 'Park'; actaully, Park amsp go back to the late 70's or 80's, I think. :whatever: The logo on the front of the amp was in about the same script style, and the control panel had the same kind of goldtone metal, to give it the Marshall look. Apparently, the brand didn't fool enuff people to believe it was Marshall by-product, so, hence, the MG series was born.

I had a Park G15CD, which became the Marshall MG15CD; with Park removed from the brand, it suddenly cost about $25 more.

Found this little old Park listed for sale on e-bay...
Park Practice amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-Park-Practice-Amp_W0QQitemZ280374432324QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item41479e5244&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

markb
July 26th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Before they were the Marshall MG series, about 12-15 years ago, they were made in Korea for Marshall and bore the subsidiary brand name 'Park'; actaully, Park amsp go back to the late 70's or 80's, I think. :whatever: [/URL]

The original Park amps were made when Marshall were distributed by Rose-Morris worldwide. The Park brand was a way of selling a few amps on the British market and holding on to the whole profit. Parks were just the same as "proper" Marshalls but a little cheaper in construction (screws instead of threaded posts, that sort of thing). If you see something that looks like a Marshall plexi but says Park on the front I'd advise checking it out. IIRC Park was Ken Bran's (Marshall chief designer) wife's maiden name.

ibanezjunkie
August 3rd, 2009, 04:31 AM
being the only fairly knowledgable person in my area, i get so many people asking me about marshall MGs. In the end i just let them buy them, then find out for themselves when it breaks down 4 or 5 weeks later.

:rotflmao: