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Ch0jin
December 17th, 2009, 02:11 AM
Well I finally got my Boss RC-2 yesterday and man, I'm convinced everyone needs one of these. For less than the cost of some drive box's you can get something that will definitely improve your playing. For the uninitiated, the looper records a "phrase" which can be a chunk of music from 1.5s to 16m long and then plays it back so you can jam over the top. You can also overdub just by stomping on it so you can easily record say, a chord progression, then bass, then clean guitar, distorted guitar, anything really. It's the ultimate practice tool I reckon. It's got a bunch of built in drum beats that -try- to match tempo with your playing too. I say "try" because it's a bit hit and miss. A better way is to pick a beat and tempo first if you want drums.

A couple of minor gripes about the RC-2 though (bearing in mind this is probably the cheapest looper you can buy).

1. It has an AUX in for recording phrases, but no line/headphone out to make it easy to record jams to PC.
2. There's an LED that flash's in time to the beat, but I'd much prefer one that indicated the start/end of a recorded phrase whilst playing back.

Apart from that I love it! If you like playing along to jam tracks like me, then have a play with a looper next time your in a guitar store. It's a major cliche of course, but it does make learning fun. Playing chords and then playing lead over them, trying out bass lines etc.

I am going to put together a switch pedal for it though, just for the slightly improved ease of use. The only hard part about that is finding some decent momentary NC switches...

Anyway, here's a quick video of a jam I put together a few minutes after plugging it in, it's -that- easy to use.

Sorry about the TV in the background and the low quality, it was literally a quick test before dinner that got outa hand :) I recorded a basic chord progression first, then slowed it down and dubbed a few lead lines and clean sounding fills over it.

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I have it as the last box in the FX loop. That way loops are unaffected anything in my front end. Seems to work OK.

M29
December 17th, 2009, 08:24 AM
Congrats Ch0jin! I love mine and use it all the time, I would have to replace it if something happened to it.

M

aeolian
December 17th, 2009, 10:23 AM
What a coincidence, because I just got a used one from a buddy of mine a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately I have been very busy since then so I have only played with it for a few minutes the day I got it. I did manage to set a drum pattern tempo, record a short progression and then play some lead over it.

I have several guitar lead breaks that I have had problem getting the timing/phrasing right. Although we play the songs at practice it is not enough repetition to work out issues like that. I find that the RC-2 is perfect for ironing out this sort of playing problem since the RC-2 never gets tired repeating the progression for me!

It will also be useful if I come up with a progression and want to develop a melody over it.

Tone2TheBone
December 17th, 2009, 10:30 AM
I'm gonna have to dig mine out I haven't used it in a long time.

Commodore 64
December 17th, 2009, 10:39 AM
This seems to be just what I would need to practice Iron Maiden stuff (by myself), for the dual guitar leads and stuff.

hubberjub
December 17th, 2009, 11:13 AM
I have one too. I recommend getting the external pedal for it. It makes the pedal far easier to use.

Commodore 64
December 17th, 2009, 11:15 AM
I have one too. I recommend getting the external pedal for it. It makes the pedal far easier to use.

Would that be like getting the RC-20XL (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-RC20XL-Loop-Station?sku=151352) then?
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/2/6/1/239261.jpg

Spudman
December 17th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Would that be like getting the RC20 XL?

I'm not sure but the external pedal for the XL lets you scroll through the saved loops. It might serve the same function on the RC2.

I definitely agree Ch0jin that it will do more to improve your playing that you can imagine. I use my RC20 XL daily as well as the looper in my M13. The looper is a very valuable tool indeed.

oldguy
December 17th, 2009, 11:31 AM
I have the Digitech version (Jamman). I agree a looper is a valuable tool I have the external pedal that lets me scroll up or down through loops, and highly recommend one.......you can do things on the fly w/ your feet to avoid leaning over and turning knobs by hand. Very handy.
Having a looper to just try ideas (how does that chord progression sound with this lead lick/how do these harmony leads sounds together?)is also a time saver, and ideas you like can be saved for later. And of course laying backing tracks on one and practicing along is a great way to practice.

Commodore 64
December 17th, 2009, 02:57 PM
RC-2 for sale, $135 shipped here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1246665

Someone get it before I succumb!

Eric
December 17th, 2009, 03:06 PM
RC-2 for sale, $135 shipped here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1246665

Someone get it before I succumb!
That's a good question -- what is a fair price for one of these (or a looper in general)?

I have the whole computer-recording thing that I can use, but it's a bit more clunky than a pedal, so I'm contemplating some sort of looper.

Spudman
December 17th, 2009, 05:39 PM
That seems like a fair price for a looper.

Eric
December 17th, 2009, 05:52 PM
That seems like a fair price for a looper.
So if I found an RC-2 on CL for $120, it's worth it?

Geoffrey Charles
December 17th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Congrats!

Spudman
December 17th, 2009, 07:10 PM
So if I found an RC-2 on CL for $120, it's worth it?

Sure. Especially since you are probably going to ask for a lower price. ;)

Eric
December 17th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Sure. Especially since you are probably going to ask for a lower price. ;)
Hrmm. I probably should have done that...

Geoffrey Charles
December 18th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Congrats on the new toy!

Commodore 64
December 20th, 2009, 07:34 PM
I borrowed an RC20XL from my friend. The one with 2 pedals. It is SO awesome. Being able to practice over your self is so cool. And now I can hear myself play on the playback too to see how horribly I keep time!

Spudman
December 20th, 2009, 09:52 PM
I borrowed an RC20XL from my friend. The one with 2 pedals. It is SO awesome. Being able to practice over your self is so cool. And now I can hear myself play on the playback too to see how horribly I keep time!

We are the Looper. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.
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oldguy
December 20th, 2009, 11:42 PM
And now I can hear myself play on the playback too to see how horribly I keep time!

Yep, that's what I use mine for.......errrrr.....to try and improve, that is.:D

Commodore 64
December 21st, 2009, 05:55 AM
Craig's list to the rescue. Just got an email from this seller. GOing to try and hook up with him today. The price isn't OMG cheap, but will still save me a chunk of change.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/msg/1511228872.html

Eric
December 21st, 2009, 06:05 AM
Craig's list to the rescue. Just got an email from this seller. GOing to try and hook up with him today. The price isn't OMG cheap, but will still save me a chunk of change.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/msg/1511228872.html
Haha, you are singlehandedly keeping the Craigslist community thriving. Good luck! I bought the RC-2 I mentioned above, and it's pretty cool, though I haven't had much time to play with it yet.

Commodore 64
December 21st, 2009, 06:12 AM
There's also an RC-2 for $95...I didn't mail that one though, it's a bit farther away and probably gone by now anyways.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/msg/1510489812.html