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duhvoodooman
October 17th, 2012, 02:48 PM
The new BYOC Tweed Royal amp kit is now available for pre-order. Pre-orders will be accepted until Oct. 26, and are scheduled to ship on or before Nov. 5, which is the official kit release date. Cabinets offered for the kit are either a 1x12 combo or a head. Additionally, BYOC is offering several extension cabs: 4x10, 2x12, 2x10 and 1x15, along with Jensen speakers to fill 'em. Cabinet coverings available are black tolex, tweed tolex, or lacquered tweed cloth ($25 upcharge). Check out all the tech details, options and pricing here: http://buildyourownclone.com/ampkitindex.html

kidsmoke
October 17th, 2012, 02:56 PM
wow.

is that pre-order price below the expected regular price?

duhvoodooman
October 17th, 2012, 03:21 PM
is that pre-order price below the expected regular price?Not to my knowledge. I believe the sole benefit of pre-ordering is being able to get an amp kit shipped on the 11/5 release date. Regular ordering will start that date, but won't ship for 2 - 3 weeks thereafter.

Very reasonable pricing for the quality & features, I think. At the low end, the amp kit (includes tubes) and a tolex covered head cab would run you $600 + shipping. Move up to a 1x12 combo cab with the premium lacquered tweed cloth and a Jensen alnico P12R speaker and you're looking at $765. If you have your own tubes (2x12AX7, 2x6V6, 1x5Y3), knock $50 off those prices.

piebaldpython
October 17th, 2012, 04:15 PM
:drool:drool:drool:drool Damn, shorted out my keyboard again.

Spudman
October 17th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Dang! Just when I thought I was safe.:thwap

duhvoodooman
October 18th, 2012, 09:26 AM
For those of you who may be "click-averse" to going over to the BYOC product page, here are all the gory tech details on this new amp kit. Quite the piece of technology with switchable 5F1 Champ and 5E3 Deluxe operating modes, plus tone and presence (negative feedback loop) controls that can be taken right out of the amp circuit when not used. I also understand that the power transformer will be able to handle 120V and 240V sources, so there's no "export version" constraint to deal with:

"Get all your low wattage, Tweed-era tone from one amp. The Tweed
Royal is a true single ended AND push-pull output amp. Do not confuse this
with all the other amps out there that simply switch between class A and class
AB biasing (which the Tweed Royal does as well, btw), or change from a 6V6
to an EL84, or go from 30watts to 1/2 a watt. That has nothing to do with
changing the output of the amp from Push-Pull to Single Ended. The Tweed
Royal is BOTH a Class A, Single Ended 5watt, single 6V6 amp just like the
Fender 5F1 Champ, AND a Class AB, Push-Pull, 12watt, dual 6V6 amplifier
just like the Fender 5E3 Deluxe.

The natural compression, rich 2nd order harmonics, and buttery overdrive
of Single Ended output, or the crisp, articulate attack, higher headroom, and
crunchy overdrive of Push-Pull output - real honest to goodness Single Ended
output and Push-Pull output from a single amp with just the flip of a switch.
You can't get that with just some clever cathode switching and tube swapping.
It comes from the amp's transformers. The Tweed Royal features a special
set of custom wound power and output transformers from Magnetic
Components. Magnetic Components is a Chicago based company that has
been winding transformers since 1943. They are the same company that
made the transformers for all of the Valco brand amplifiers in the 50's and
60's, including the Supro brand. These aren't just some guys who are winding
transformers the old school way. These ARE the old school guys who are still
winding transformers the exact same way they always have. We worked
closely with the engineer at Magnetic Components for over a year to design
the custom transformers for the BYOC Tweed Royal. The end result was a
set of transformers that achieve something entirely new, but at the same time,
deliver uncompromising and unmistakable vintage tweed-era tone.

The power amp section isn't the only place where we made innovations to
a classic design. The preamp of the Tweed Royal allows you to dial in 5F1
Champ tones, 5E3 Deluxe tones, and a whole lot of other in between tones.
The tone knob on the Tweed Royal has a switch. When you turn it full turn
counter-clockwise, it removes the tone knob from the circuit completely
making the EQ more Champ-like.

The Cut knob on the Tweed Royal is similar to a Presence knob. It
controls the amount of negative feedback from the output transformer to the
phase inverter. But wait a minute! Neither the Champ nor the Deluxe had a
Cut or Presence knob, right? Right. But what you might not know is that the
Champ did have a negative feedback loop. It was just hardwired with a single
resistor so you had no control over it. We added this negative feedback
resistance, but we used a potentiometer instead so you can dial in exact
Champ tones or other varying degrees of cut. And just like the tone knob,
when you turn the cut knob full turn counter-clockwise, it removes it from the
circuit completely and restores it to exact 5E3 Deluxe specs.

As with all BYOC products, the Tweed Royal features the finest
components available: custom wound Classic Tone brand transformers from
Magnetic Components; F&T power filter caps; Mallory and Sprague caps
throughout the rest of the circuit; carbon comp resistors; lacquered cloth
coverd wire; JJ vacuum tubes, and a turret lugged circuit board.

Cabinet/Speaker Options: We offer a 1x12 combo cabinet or a head cab
to house your Tweed Royal amplifier. We also offer several extension cabs
with various speaker combinations. Our cabinets are made of finger jointed
solid pine. The speaker baffle and backs of the 1x12 combo and extension
cabs are made from 13 ply birch. We offer 3 different options for the
covering: tweed tolex with oxblood grill cloth and brown handle; black tolex
with silver/blue grill cloth and black handle; or lacquered tweed with oxblood
grill cloth and brown handle. All of our cabinets are made right here in our
shop in Richland, WA USA."

kidsmoke
October 18th, 2012, 09:43 AM
For those of you who may be "click-averse" to going over to the BYOC product page, here are all the gory tech details on this new amp kit.

Awright man, THAT's enough. Now you're just being mean.

duhvoodooman
October 18th, 2012, 09:51 AM
My only objective is to inform & educate!

duhvoodooman
November 13th, 2012, 10:00 AM
Got my BYOC Tweed Royal kit yesterday! I opted for the head version, so it also came with a nice laquered tweed head cabinet. Will probably start a new "build" thread over in the Mods, Project, etc. forum.

Not my photo, but here's a shot taken by another BYOC'er of his unpacked Tweed Royal kit with the same lacquered tweed head cab:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a295/Teerawit/IMG_6698.jpg

Spudman
November 13th, 2012, 02:15 PM
Get that puppy built so we can hear what she sounds like.

duhvoodooman
November 13th, 2012, 02:38 PM
Should have it up & running by this weekend.

marnold
November 13th, 2012, 04:03 PM
Should have it up & running by this weekend.

I thought you always let your amph kits age for a while before assembly. :poke

duhvoodooman
November 13th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Funny stuff, Rev. Be sure to give your writers a raise.... ;)

kidsmoke
November 13th, 2012, 11:25 PM
Should have it up & running by this weekend.

THAT's what I like to hear!!

good luck with the build! Have a particular cab in mind?

Ch0jin
November 14th, 2012, 01:45 AM
I thought you always let your amph kits age for a while before assembly. :poke

That really did make me Laugh Out Loud! Nice work Rev :)

I love amp build threads, and this one does sound interesting so I'll be watching along for sure.

duhvoodooman
November 14th, 2012, 06:40 AM
good luck with the build! Have a particular cab in mind?
I have two of them, either of which should work great: a 1x12 with a Celestion Alnico Blue and a 2x12 ported cab with a pair of Greenbacks in it.

Jipes
November 14th, 2012, 06:56 AM
Very interesting thread indeed I had a 5F11 amp build by a friend of mine but the combination of a Champ 5E3 together with the 5F1 is intriguing. Could that also includes the vibrato of an original Tweed Vibrolux circuit ? Do you know any video of this Royal amp ?

duhvoodooman
November 14th, 2012, 08:01 AM
No, there's no vibrato. The circuit sticks to the 5F1/5E3 designs, with the addition of a presence (neg. feedback) control. No video yet, but Keith is hoping to have the time to do one soon.

Jipes
November 14th, 2012, 08:13 AM
No, there's no vibrato. The circuit sticks to the 5F1/5E3 designs, with the addition of a presence (neg. feedback) control. No video yet, but Keith is hoping to have the time to do one soon.

Thanks Man I would love to hear that combination !