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Tone2TheBone
January 25th, 2007, 11:18 AM
All you groovy studio studs listen up..... What set of headphones would you suggest to someone that needs something better than an old pair of Sony Walkman headphones with the ear foam missing on both sides. You guys's recordings are SICK MAN and I want to get back into it too! But I need a really good set of headphones. Anything special you'd suggest? :cool:

oldguy
January 25th, 2007, 11:28 AM
I use Sony MDR-110's. Cheap at Wal-Mart. Not really what I recommend, just what I use...:confused:

Tone2TheBone
January 25th, 2007, 11:32 AM
I use Sony MDR-110's. Cheap at Wal-Mart. Not really what I recommend, just what I use...:confused:


Well if thats what you're using then I want some too because your RP recordings RULE! :D *does a search on those Sonys for some images*

DOH....my foamless Sonys are MDR-101s So I don't need no stinkin' fancy headphones that would make me look like a test pilot then? :)

SuperSwede
January 25th, 2007, 01:22 PM
I´ve always loved Beyerdynamics.. But at the moment I am using a pair of low cost SilverCrest headphones that works ok.

oldguy
January 25th, 2007, 05:03 PM
One thing I have been doing lately is checking what I record through the headphones, and then through the PC speakers. If it sounds bad to my ears in either one, I try and redo the EQ to compensate.(Translation-erase it and start over.):eek:
Another thing... instead of leaving either the guitar, or else the rhythm track, right "down the middle" ,you might want to try making a copy of one or the other, making sure it's in sync w/ it's twin, then pan one hard left and the other hard right. It seems to give a more spacious sound to the recording, IMO. I usually do this to the lead guitar if I'm going to do it. It's a little like running your amphs in stereo across the stage, I guess, getting some separation sound-wise.:)

Tone2TheBone
January 25th, 2007, 05:08 PM
I´ve always loved Beyerdynamics.. But at the moment I am using a pair of low cost SilverCrest headphones that works ok.

Are you talkin' Uberheadphones buddy? Show me a pic...I wanna see.

I'm thinking the headphones should at least have great frequency range. I like hearing those sexy lows in the 18Hz chake my chakra range and the highs up in the 20khz area.

Tone2TheBone
January 25th, 2007, 05:13 PM
One thing I have been doing lately is checking what I record through the headphones, and then through the PC speakers. If it sounds bad to my ears in either one, I try and redo the EQ to compensate.(Translation-erase it and start over.):eek:
Another thing... instead of leaving either the guitar, or else the rhythm track, right "down the middle" ,you might want to try making a copy of one or the other, making sure it's in sync w/ it's twin, then pan one hard left and the other hard right. It seems to give a more spacious sound to the recording, IMO. I usually do this to the lead guitar if I'm going to do it. It's a little like running your amphs in stereo across the stage, I guess, getting some separation sound-wise.:)

Good points to look out for OhGEE. Panning various mixes on your tracks really fills up that "stage" nicely. Great tip.

NPauly
January 25th, 2007, 08:12 PM
I personally use ... Sony MDR-7506, but I would also use AKG K 141, and Sennheiser HD-280 in a pinch.

Sony MDR-7506 @ Musician's Friend - $99.00 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sony-Pro-MDR7506-Headphones?sku=271056&src=3SOSWXXA)

AKG K 141 @ Musician's Friend - $99.00 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-K-141-Studio-Headphones?sku=240247)

Sennheiser HD-280 @ Musician's Friend - $99.00 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sennheiser-HD280-Pro-ClosedBack-Headphones?sku=242411)

NPauly
January 25th, 2007, 08:25 PM
I'm thinking the headphones should at least have great frequency range. I like hearing those sexy lows in the 18Hz chake my chakra range and the highs up in the 20khz area.

if you really want good bass below the 20Hz range then these are the headphones for you ...

Sony MDR-V700 @ Musician's Friend - $98.99 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sony-MDRV700-DJ-Headphones?sku=271062)

I use a pair of these on louder concerts and events. They have a great seal over the ear and the frequency response is perfect for loud mixes ... not exactly flat response, but more than adequate for most loud shows or modern studio mixes.

If you want a perfectly flat response see the headphones I listed before ...

Spudman
January 25th, 2007, 08:27 PM
I use the Sony 7506 too. Awesome cans - not like Pamela Anderson, but still pretty good.

Super for watching movies with so as not to disturb the gang too. I usually pull one cup off an ear to see if the house is rockin or if it's still just in my headphones. The lows are so good I swear that the speakers are still on at times.

SuperSwede
January 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM
Are you talkin' Uberheadphones buddy? Show me a pic...I wanna see.

I'm thinking the headphones should at least have great frequency range. I like hearing those sexy lows in the 18Hz chake my chakra range and the highs up in the 20khz area.

I had the old version of the DTX-900 headphones, they look like this:
http://www.poortmusic.nl/apparatuur/beyerdynamics/dtx900.jpg
and shouldnt set you back more than a 100 dollars. Unfortunately mine are broken after 10 years of use, so I´m in the market for a new pair.

tot_Ou_tard
January 26th, 2007, 07:35 AM
Grado SR-60 is a great pair of cheap rock cans at $69:

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manufacturer/grado/grado-sr-60.php

They fold up neat if you need to travel with them.

If you need sealed cans the aforementioned Sennheiser HD280-Pro is a good bet at $99:

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manufacturer/sennheiser/sennheiser-hd-280-pro.php

"The HD280Pro has also long been the headphone choice of audio, film and field recording/mixing professionals due to its accurate tonal presentation, ambient noise attenuation properties and ultra-durable build quality. All in all, a true workhorse of a sealed-back headphone at a really hard-to-beat price."

I haven't heard anything about the Sony's that were mentioned.

NPauly
January 26th, 2007, 10:42 PM
I haven't heard anything about the Sony's that were mentioned.

Here's the scoop on the Sony MDR-7506 headphones ...

I have been a live sound engineer for over 10 years now. More recently I have been earning my keep by mixing jazz concerts with musicians such as Russell Malone, Buckey Pizzarelli, John Pizzarelli, Gene Bertoncini, Frank Vignola, Jay Leonhart, & Wycliffe Gordon. I have mixed and/or system engineered festivals/concerts featuring Buddy Guy, The Blind Boys from Alabama, Jeff Tweedy, Nels Cline, Wilco, Cat Power, John Mayer, Norah Jones, Ryan Adams, and many many others. I toured for over a year with the most recent North American tour of Miss Saigon. I recently supervised the construction of the sound systems for the most recent Big League Theatricals tour of Disney's Aida. I worked at/for Universal Studios, Disney World, the House of Blues, and the Hard Rock Cafe in Orlando, FL (my home state). I have designed many regional theatrical production -- both full musicals and straight plays. I have worked with both Acme Sound Partners and Tony Meola on theatrical/musical sound systems. I have run sound for the New York Public Theatre's Shakespeare in the Park Festival and the Tony Award winning revival of The Pajama Game. I have built shows at all of the major sound shops in the New York City area -- Masque Sound, Sound Associates, PRG Audio, and One Dream Sound.

Everyone and I mean everyone I know uses Sony MDR-7506 headphones. Whenever you request a set of headphones be included with a basic festival/concert sound package there is a 99.999% chance that they will be Sony MDR-7506s. They are used in studios, on live events, on television sets, and in radio stations (although I will admit that the AKG K240S & K141S are both a little more popular in the radio realm).

That's the scoop ... :D

But try out a few and get what you want/need -- that's why I listed several different headphones. Just remember, while the Sonys are the professional audio equivalent of the Les Paul or Stratocaster, we all know that the Les Paul and the Stratocaster aren't the only game in town. ;)

tot_Ou_tard
January 27th, 2007, 07:53 AM
You win NPauly! I'd check out them Sonys!


BTW, do you have a favorite inexpensive mixing board for home use?

NPauly
January 27th, 2007, 10:32 AM
You win NPauly! I'd check out them Sonys!

LOL! :D No competition intended, just perspective and advice ... ;)


BTW, do you have a favorite inexpensive mixing board for home use?

I personally have a used Yamaha O1V (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/01V96/) that I picked up last year for considerably less than the current retail price, but I'm sure it's probably more than your looking for. I honestly haven't looked at smaller format mixers in a number of years, but the local sound shops seem to prefer to rent small format mixers from Yamaha (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/category.php?c=264&cp=30&sb=catalogprice&m=Yamaha), Mackie (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/category.php?c=264&cp=30&sb=catalogprice&m=Mackie), and Soundcraft (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/category.php?c=264&cp=30&sb=catalogprice&m=Soundcraft) and that's probably a good indication of either cheap replacement cost or durability, but as to which it is, your guess is as good as mine.

tot_Ou_tard
January 27th, 2007, 12:27 PM
LOL! :D No competition intended, just perspective and advice ... ;)

& some perspective it was!


but I'm sure it's probably more than your looking for.
As you can tell from my other post I do already have another mixer that I'm having a bit of trouble with. I was just looking for some of that patented perspective! ;)