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markb
May 10th, 2008, 03:58 PM
I only want it for modulations and delays. Can anyone recommend a good sounding unit that would fit the bill? I don't mind if it has overdrives or amp sims built in as long as they can be completely switched off, not just set to "clean" or the like. A small footprint would be good for a floor unit and I suppose true bypass is too much to ask for.

marnold
May 10th, 2008, 04:04 PM
I can't offer personal experience, but this article (http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/Apr/Delay_Shootout_TC_Electronic_Eventide_and_EH.aspx) might help.

warren0728
May 10th, 2008, 05:12 PM
no real experience except with my rp250 (which i really like)....but i think it does more than you are looking for.... :whatever:

ww

t_ross33
May 10th, 2008, 06:42 PM
This (http://behringer.com/FX600/index.cfm?lang=ENG)might fit the bill (and the wallet).

This (http://www.carlmartin.com/product%20quattro.htm)has always looked interesting to me.

This (http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=534)looks kinda cool as well.

Happy hunting... hunting... hunting... hunting...

sunvalleylaw
May 10th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Here are two options, one more expensive and new and one older, cheaper used option, in this thread:

http://www.thefret.net/showthread.php?t=7023

TS808
May 22nd, 2008, 07:22 PM
I'm using a Boss me-50 now due to the fact that it is one of the few that doesn't have amp or cab simulators. It can be run in manual or presets and really has some nice modulation and delays, and a compressor.

just strum
May 22nd, 2008, 08:05 PM
I did bid on a few ME50 on e-bay, there are usually a number available at any time. I ended up with the RP350 because I was able to get it on e-bay new for a lot less. If you can snag an ME50, I definitely would go that route. Wingsdad has one and really likes it and I believe there are a few others besides TS and Wingsdad on here that own one.

They are a solidly built piece of equipment, so buying a used one on e-bay usually is a pretty safe purchase. I would say you are looking at $170 to $230 on e-bay. Make sure you get one with a power supply or you will have to add another $20+ to buy one.

You might also check the ME-20, but a lot of times they sell for just slightly less than the 50, so you would be better off spending the few extra for the 50.

Good luck.

Robert
May 22nd, 2008, 08:18 PM
Lexicon (http://www.zzounds.com/a--885181/item--LEXMPX1)
Zoom (http://www.zzounds.com/a--885181/item--ZOMRFX2200)

thearabianmage
May 22nd, 2008, 08:19 PM
I use Line 6, and for delays and modulation it is pretty decent (there is excellent control over delay, but modulation leaves a bit to be desired). The PodXT Pro is a bit expensive and has a lot of things you won't want, but I would recommend 'the bean.'

Apart from that, there would be TC Electronics rack units - they are meant to shine in the modulation areas, but slightly lacking in delay. Again, expensive with superfluous features.

The cheaper options would definitely be Digitech, Zoom, etc.

Good luck

Blaze
May 23rd, 2008, 05:49 AM
Boss Gt -8 in send return of your amp for modulation effects , awesome..there s a manuel mode wich you can use as indepedant boss pedal setting..

http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=720


Blazes:dude:

pes_laul
May 23rd, 2008, 03:49 PM
I had a Zoom G1X that was pretty cool.

street music
May 24th, 2008, 06:43 AM
For multi effects , I think the Zoom pedals are hard to beat.

markb
May 24th, 2008, 10:03 PM
Thanks for all the tips. I'm coming round to the Zoom G2 for size and usefulness although the Digitech RP500 is looking useful due to the global amp/cabinet bypass function. What puts me off the Digitechs is when I read the words "behind the scenes" repeatedly in the manuals. I'm still looking.

Sblack
May 26th, 2008, 06:50 PM
I have a Zoom G1 :AOK: that I use in my pedal chain after external drive/distortion, but I only use the G1 for delays, choruses, eq, gate, and compression. It works and sounds incredible for a digital box. And it only cost me $59.00 new. :)

TS808
June 2nd, 2008, 07:00 PM
One of the things that really sold me about the Boss ME-50 was the simplicity in use...it can be run on manual, or you can store patches in it as well. It was also one of the few multi-effects pedals I looked at that didn't have amp simulators or cabinet simulators. I know you can edit those out on the other multi-effects units, but again, I like the simplicity.

Jimi75
June 6th, 2008, 09:10 AM
I used to use the Lexicon back in the 80s, when 19" rigs were in.
Later on I had a Rocktrin Intellifex and a Rocktron Piranha preamp. Good stuff.

I was also looking for multi effect options, the Digitech stuff seems to be good, but also the the VOX Tonelab sounds good to me.

Lev
June 7th, 2008, 03:26 AM
Hey Jimi,

check out the price drop on the tonelab LE here: http://www.dv247.com/invt/43834/

(you may need to select Euro as the currency on the top)

This looks like a great deal to me @ €226. I had been looking at the Boss GT10 and the Pod X3 both are going for about €450 in Europe. I'm seriously tempted, the tonelab gets really great reviews. The only thing holding me back is that from what I read the tonelab sounds best direct to a PA while the Boss GT-10 does a great job with an amp. I'm really looking for a multiFX for play through an amp.

PS - I'd also endorse the Zoom G series for anyone on a budget, I'm just thinking of of a tonelab for the extra options and and flexibility etc.

Jimi75
June 7th, 2008, 06:28 AM
Hey Jimi,

check out the price drop on the tonelab LE here: http://www.dv247.com/invt/43834/

(you may need to select Euro as the currency on the top)

This looks like a great deal to me @ €226. I had been looking at the Boss GT10 and the Pod X3 both are going for about €450 in Europe. I'm seriously tempted, the tonelab gets really great reviews. The only thing holding me back is that from what I read the tonelab sounds best direct to a PA while the Boss GT-10 does a great job with an amp. I'm really looking for a multiFX for play through an amp.

PS - I'd also endorse the Zoom G series for anyone on a budget, I'm just thinking of of a tonelab for the extra options and and flexibility etc.

Thanks for the info my friend! That's quite a good EURO price, yeah!

helliott
June 27th, 2008, 02:57 PM
One of the things that really sold me about the Boss ME-50 was the simplicity in use...it can be run on manual, or you can store patches in it as well. It was also one of the few multi-effects pedals I looked at that didn't have amp simulators or cabinet simulators. I know you can edit those out on the other multi-effects units, but again, I like the simplicity.

Looking at this to cure a new case of GAS. Haven't use one before, so wondering why the drawback to amp and cab simulators? Just bad sounds? Anyone else using this?

wingsdad
June 28th, 2008, 10:19 AM
Looking at this to cure a new case of GAS. Haven't use one before, so wondering why the drawback to amp and cab simulators? Just bad sounds? Anyone else using this?
I've had my ME50 for 4 years. I traded a pedalboard loaded with 11 MXR and Boss pedals and a Crybaby for it for pretty much the same reasons TS808 sums it up nicely with. It's got the 'interface feel' (I think I just made that term up?) of 'regular' analog pedals, with knobs for various parameters instead of a jungle of LCD Screen menus.

Add the optional extra footswitch (it doesn't have to be the Boss switch...I have a Digitech and a Behringer, either works fine) that allows switching between the 3 banks of 10 presets and I'd describe it (simplistically) as like having an array of as many as 30 pedalboards to pick from with 2 clicks.

As for no amp or cab simulators, given the ME50's advantages as a multi-fx unit, I don't consider that a drawback, because I don't really care to or need to simulate every amp on the planet. You can always plug this into the front or FX Loop of a modeling amp or into or from an amp modeler box to suit that need. Or both. It has stereo outs, so you can send the signal to 2 amps, or 2 channels of a mixer.

It actually works really well on its own as a headphone practice amp, or direct-to-recorder unit.

Steve206
June 28th, 2008, 10:43 AM
I have been wondering if a combination pedal, multi effect pedal, has any drawbacks compared with single effect pedals?

Are the single pedal effects better quality-wise, than the multi effect pedals?

I have heard that the effects that are included in the modeling amps are facsimiles of the real thing. I have no idea. I do have an AD30VT and bought it because of the modeling properties. But, not being a commonsewer of the genre, I have no experience for the judgement.

Guitars, amps, slides, strings, straps, mics and pedals,,,,,What comes after pedals???

Steve

tot_Ou_tard
June 29th, 2008, 07:41 AM
Not sure about the footprint or the cost, but this thing is interesting

http://line6.com/m13/


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I just checked the price 500 clams US. Yikes!

SuperSwede
June 29th, 2008, 10:04 AM
ooohhh

aaahhh

That MONSTER apparatus gives me such gas...

tot_Ou_tard
June 29th, 2008, 11:41 AM
You're supposed to play it, not eat it SS. ;)

SuperSwede
June 29th, 2008, 12:07 PM
You're supposed to play it, not eat it SS. ;)

Yeah, momma always said that I shouldnt play with my dinner....