Hughes & Kettner 20th Anniversary amp sale on MF!

[Robert]

Check this out
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hughes-Kettner-Edition-Tube-20th-Anniversary-Model-Combo-Amp?sku=480426&src=3SOSWXXA

This is an amp about which I have heard quite a bit of mad raving - in a good way! For $399 - it seems like a great, great buy. Dang, that is a good price! Anyone who is looking for a tube amp combo should take serious look at this one.


Hughes & Kettner Edition Tube 20th Anniversary Model Combo Amp Features:

12" Eminence RockDriver Cream speaker
20W EL84 power amp
3-band EQ
Reverb knob
2 separately variable channels
Clean channel with Volume
Lead chananel with Gain and Master Volume
Red Box DI
Effects loop
1/4" input jack
Footswitch jack
External speaker out
22"W x 10-3/4"H x 18"D
53 lbs.

[sunvalleylaw]

I sure like the look of the other demos for the Statesman. I bet this is nice too.

[t_ross33]

Curse you Renman! I just posted that a mid-watt tube amp was on my radar and you post THIS! MF even ships these to Canukada!! Arrrrgh...

Must.... resist.... temptation... do not... repeat... DO NOT... take out credit card....

Arrrrrgh...

[Robert]

Resistance if futile, Trev. You know this one's for you! Come on, we're all waiting for your review already! :eek:

[Spudman]

I read a lot of reviews on this and it sounds like a dream amp. Especially for the price.

I do think Fahrvergnügen is applicable because it is a German amph...and it does look British.
Even though I question the lack of air flow around the tubes no users have complained about heat issues.

This could be a really good deal.

[TS808]

I owned one and wound up selling it on ebay...one of the many mistakes I made in selling gear.

The tones are AMAZING on that amp. Great cleans, and the distortion is also everything from a nice bluesy overdrive to a pretty fierce growl. It sounds alot bigger than it is, and can get pretty loud. I'd highly recommend the amp to anyone who is thinking about buying it.

[tot_Ou_tard]

It comes with a Red Box DI.

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=110

May be useful for those gigging &/or recording.

[Spudman]

Save 15%
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/freedom

[Robert]

Shipping to Canada is 100 bucks. Bummer. Still a good amp for 500 bucks I guess...

[Spudman]

Music 123 has the same amp at 20% off and free shipping if you mention "4th of July" when you order. That makes the amph $320!

[Robert]

Somebody should buy one for me and take a drive up to Alberta for some holidays and drop off the amp here!

[warren0728]

Somebody should buy one for me and take a drive up to Alberta for some holidays and drop off the amp here!
tempting....you're about 3000 miles from me so it would only cost about $1500 in gas (and that's if i don't eat or drink on the trip!!)

i'll pick one up today and leave tomorrow! :beer:

ww

[tot_Ou_tard]

Man you guyz are killing me.

Any point to having a 20 watt tube amph for playing at home?

[Robert]

Tot... is there rice in China?

[tot_Ou_tard]

Tot... is there rice in China?
Robert, I don't believe that you've ever seen nascent GAS that you didn't toss a lighted match into. ;)


I'm intrigued by the clean channel, but want to know if it still sounds rich & sweet at lower volumes.

[tot_Ou_tard]

It comes with a Red Box DI.

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=110

May be useful for those gigging &/or recording.
I checked. It seems that the external speakers out doesn't mute the internal speaker. The Red Box DI must be in the speaker out circuit so that one can run the sound to a PA a mixer, or another cab.

[Robert]

tempting....you're about 3000 miles from me so it would only cost about $1500 in gas (and that's if i don't eat or drink on the trip!!)

i'll pick one up today and leave tomorrow! :beer:

ww

And I will be waiting for you with the pancake batter ready! Bring your own apron though.

[warren0728]

And I will be waiting for you with the pancake batter ready! Bring your own apron though.
apron....i don't need no stinkin' apron!! :pancake: :pancake:

ww

[TS808]

Man you guyz are killing me.

Any point to having a 20 watt tube amph for playing at home?
It's a loud little 20-watt amp, but you can play it on low volumes and it still sounds very good. When you kick in the gain, it gets pretty loud, so when I had mine, I would always use the clean channel with pedals. For such a small cabinet though, it puts out some pretty full sounds.

It's a great little amp though. Definitely worth looking into, especially at that price.

[tot_Ou_tard]

It's a loud little 20-watt amp, but you can play it on low volumes and it still sounds very good. When you kick in the gain, it gets pretty loud, so when I had mine, I would always use the clean channel with pedals. For such a small cabinet though, it puts out some pretty full sounds.

It's a great little amp though. Definitely worth looking into, especially at that price.
Proverbial trigger has been pulled.

Good Ol St Nick will be hauling it down the chimbley this Christmas.

We'll see whether my New Year's Eve resolution mentions avoiding all posts by Robert ;).

[Algonquin]

Congrats Tot... enjoy your new obsession.

:AOK:

[tot_Ou_tard]

I look forward to it David.

Just thought I'd pay the GAS forward with this:

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[TS808]

Proverbial trigger has been pulled.

Good Ol St Nick will be hauling it down the chimbley this Christmas.

We'll see whether my New Year's Eve resolution mentions avoiding all posts by Robert ;).
It's a great amp...and it sounds equally as good with single coils or humbuckers. Enjoy it! :AOK:

[tot_Ou_tard]

It's a great amp...and it sounds equally as good with single coils or humbuckers. Enjoy it! :AOK:
Thanks TS808, I plan on it.

[Robert]

Tot, if you get real disappointed by Santa's gift, please know in your heart that this amp would warm me up greatly up here in the Northern hemisphere. :) In case you want to unload it somewhere - here would definitely be the best place to do so.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Tot, if you get real disappointed by Santa's gift, please know in your heart that this amp would warm me up greatly up here in the Northern hemisphere. :) In case you want to unload it somewhere - here would definitely be the best place to do so.
OK, but you'd have to give me some guitar lessons in exchange ;).

[Robert]

Tot, DEAL! :AOK:
I really want that amp too - but I don't have enough money at this moment plus shipping seems a bit much - over $100 bloody bucks.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Tot, DEAL! :AOK:
I really want that amp too - but I don't have enough money at this moment plus shipping seems a bit much - over $100 bloody bucks.
That deal's valid only if I don't like it*.






* & if the price of gas comes down & I happen to be travelling to the Great White North anyway ;).

[t_ross33]

That deal's valid only if I don't like it*.






* & if the price of gas comes down & I happen to be travelling to the Great White North anyway ;).

You've been taking lawyer-speak lessons from SVL I see :rotflmao:

[sunvalleylaw]

Ok, I am really interested in how you like this. I consider the H&K Statesman one of my dream amphs and I wonder how this one will be.


Lawyer speak lessons . . LOL! That was said way too clearly to have come from someone who has learned to lawyer speak. ;)

[tot_Ou_tard]

Ok, I am really interested in how you like this. I consider the H&K Statesman one of my dream amphs and I wonder how this one will be.


Here's some sweet H&K action with a Gretsch. I dunno which amph this is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyvi_KlerHs

[sunvalleylaw]

Those vids look really nice. This is the vid that keeps me drooling over the Statesman. http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/cinema.php?id=23
It sounds like maybe the one you are getting gives you similar tones in a smaller 20 watt package. Nice.

[oldguy]

Here's some sweet H&K action with a Gretsch. I dunno which amph this is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyvi_KlerHs

Nice one, tot.........congrats on your new amph also.:AOK:

From the looks of this it's a bargain, and 20w is loud enough for most people....in medium sized clubs and at home.
(I liked this one w/ the LP copy...... rockin' towards the end.)
(This one is the 20th Anniversary, btw.;) )

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[sunvalleylaw]

That Les Paul copy sounds nice too. I what one of those go for. Toward the end when he adds overdrive to get closer to metal territory, I am sure he said he turned on a Bad Monkey. LOL!

This is the only place I have found on the internet that even mentions selling Statesman Quad EL84 in the states, and the price is $1200.00. Shoot, I thought the street price was going to be closer to $700 or $800. I think you are getting a great deal tot! 20 watts will be much easier to play as well.

[marnold]

Sounds like a great little ampf! Lots of versatility.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Those vids look really nice. This is the vid that keeps me drooling over the Statesman. http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/cinema.php?id=23
It sounds like maybe the one you are getting gives you similar tones in a smaller 20 watt package. Nice.
Yeah, I remember drooling over that video too.

I was wondering if the Tube Edition 20 was H&K practicing & working their way up to the Statesman series.

The 20th anniversary sports an Emminence Rockdriver Cream speaker. I believe they are used in the Statesman series as well. The regular Tube Edition 20 had some sort of Celestion.

It's the clean channel that really gives me goosebumps (what the Hawaiians call chicken skin).

[duhvoodooman]

For $320 in the door from Music123, I couldn't pass this up either, so I have one on the way. If it sounds as good as the demo clips and YouTube vids, I'll sell the Blues Jr. Everybody seems to rave about the great cleans (which the Blues Jr. also has), and the Lead (i.e. distortion!) channel sounds great, too (not the Fender's strength). Two separate channels, an effects loop, Accutronix spring reverb, and a DI box--what's not to like??? :dude:

[warren0728]

For $320 in the door from Music123,
how did you get that price....says $399 on their website...

ww

[duhvoodooman]

how did you get that price....says $399 on their website...

ww
4th of July 20% off sale, good until midnight PDT tonight:

http://www.music123.com/Cash-Back-g410t1.Music123

[warren0728]

4th of July 20% off sale, good until midnight PDT tonight:

http://www.music123.com/Cash-Back-g410t1.Music123
cool....that's a great deal! :bravo: :beer:

ww

[Spudman]

how did you get that price....says $399 on their website...

ww

Didn't you read my post #10?:thwap:

[tot_Ou_tard]

I read Spuds post.

I also picked up this amph stand for $19.99

http://www.music123.com/Musicians-Gear-Deluxe-Amp-Stand-451065-i1322960.Music123


For $320 in the door from Music123, I couldn't pass this up either, so I have one on the way. If it sounds as good as the demo clips and YouTube vids, I'll sell the Blues Jr. Everybody seems to rave about the great cleans (which the Blues Jr. also has), and the Lead (i.e. distortion!) channel sounds great, too (not the Fender's strength). Two separate channels, an effects loop, Accutronix spring reverb, and a DI box--what's not to like??? :dude:
Great, so you can torment me with the killer tones you are getting, while I wait for Santa's lumerbering a$$? :D

Actually, I can get the H&K out of Xmas hawk by selling my AD30VT, which I plan on doing. If I want Valvetronix sounds, I'll just inject my Tonelab into the return of the effects loop with the cab modelling turned off.

BTW, It may not actually come with the Red Box as a separate item. I think it may be internal to the amph.

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=110

The RED Box DI is a buffer that sits between the output transformer & the speaker. The Red Box has two outputs

1) A low impendance cab simulated balanced line out for going direct to a mixer or PA. This signal reads the impedance curve of the amphs speaker. The internal speaker is not bypassed & no speaker sim is needed.

2) Speaker throughput.

Since the speaker out on the Tube Edition 20 does not bypass the internal speaker, the Red Box is likely to be built-in.

The amph does not appear to have the cab simulated line-out option. Here is the Tube 20 info from the H&K site

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=93


& manual


http://87.106.71.220/files/huke/proclass/editiontube20thanniversary/manual/Edition%20_Tube_20_BDA_1_1.pdf

[warren0728]

Didn't you read my post #10?:thwap:
i did...but obviously didn't remember since i knew i wasn't going to get one.... :thwap:

ww

[just strum]

I have that stand - when you get it, reverse the "L" brackets so the bottom of the amp rests on the long section of of the "L". This puts the weight more centered and eliminates the top heaviness that is inherent in the design.

[duhvoodooman]

BTW, It may not actually come with the Red Box as a separate item. I think it may be internal to the amph.

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=110

The RED Box DI is a buffer that sits between the output transformer & the speaker. The Red Box has two outputs

1) A low impendance cab simulated balanced line out for going direct to a mixer or PA. This signal reads the impedance curve of the amphs speaker. The internal speaker is not bypassed & no speaker sim is needed.

2) Speaker throughput.

Since the speaker out on the Tube Edition 20 does not bypass the internal speaker, the Red Box is likely to be built-in.

The amph does not appear to have the cab simulated line-out option. Here is the Tube 20 info from the H&K site

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=93

& manual

http://87.106.71.220/files/huke/proclass/editiontube20thanniversary/manual/Edition%20_Tube_20_BDA_1_1.pdf
Tot, you may be right about the Red Box DI being built in, but I can't find a word about it in the amp's documentation. And I would think there would be some kind of output jack for the DI if it was built in. Guess I'll just have to see what shows up at my doorstep....

[Algonquin]

Wow... Tot and DVM both scoring cool new gear :AOK: It sounds like you'll be getting a great amp at an awesome price.

[duhvoodooman]

It sounds like you'll be getting a great amp at an awesome price.
Sure hope so, 'Gonq! :dude:

[duhvoodooman]

BTW, a big "P.S." here:

Robert, thanks for passing this tip along. I think I got a fantastic deal on this amp, and would never have known about it without your timely posting! :AOK: :dude: :bravo: :beer:

[just strum]

Pardon my lack of amp knowledge, but is this brand of amp popular or known as one of the better amp manufacturers? I am clueless on amps and basically only knew of a few manufacturers up until recently (last year or two).

[duhvoodooman]

They're a German outfit, so better known in Europe, I'd guess. They certainly have a good reputation for quality amplifiers, from all I've read. So while not a name of the magnitide of a Fender, Marshall or Vox, still quite well known & respected.

[sunvalleylaw]

I love my C-30, and can't swing a purchase right now, but I am still pretty darn jealous of you guys.

[Spudman]

BTW, a big "P.S." here:

Robert, thanks for passing this tip along. I think I got a fantastic deal on this amp, and would never have known about it without your timely posting! :AOK: :dude: :bravo: :beer:

Yes. Thank you in advance mein Herr.


Pardon my lack of amp knowledge, but is this brand of amp popular or known as one of the better amp manufacturers? I am clueless on amps and basically only knew of a few manufacturers up until recently (last year or two).Today 03:36 PM

Check out who their sponsored artists are and that should give you a good idea of the quality. I also know that Brad Gillis from Night Ranger and Michael Wilton from Queensryche use their amps.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Yeah thanks to Robert for the heads up & to Spud for the discount code.

[Spudman]

Check out all the H&K users. Wow!

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/user.php

[Robert]

You're welcome, Tot, Spud and Vood, but I'm not happy I couldn't get the same deal here! Grr! I had a lot of drool on my keyboard as these events took place... I hope they sounds as good as I imagine. I could maybe snag one on eBay one day. You guys owe it to me to report back your findings when you play this sucker through its paces!

[tot_Ou_tard]

I assume that the reason for the blowout is that these amphs are being discontinued.

Is this true? Does anybody know?

[duhvoodooman]

Seems unlikely--that model was only introduced in 2007. Maybe not moving as quickly as they'd thought, so they're selling at/near cost to kick-start sales and get some chatter in the market? Pure guess.... :confused:

[t_ross33]

Check out all the H&K users. Wow!

http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/user.php

Yep. THIS (http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=97)is enough of an endorsement for me :dude:

[Spudman]

Yep. THIS (http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=97)is enough of an endorsement for me :dude:

I hear ya eh? It sure is purdy too.:drool:

[tot_Ou_tard]

Yep. THIS (http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=97)is enough of an endorsement for me :dude:
The H&K Leif Garrett Signature Amp?!? Sheez t_ross!















...Oh, Alex Lifeson...ummm never mind. :rotflmao:

[sunvalleylaw]

Yeah and now it says "Sorry Discontinued" on the MF sight and was no longer on the Music123 site either so good for you guys. I am excited to hear how you will like them.

[Spudman]

I just downloaded and read the manual and there is no mention of the Red Box DI and no jacks on the amph for it. My guess is that MF just took another of their stupid shortcuts and copied a description from another H&K amph and used it for the ad copy.:( The Red Box would have been a huge asset.

[tot_Ou_tard]

I just downloaded and read the manual and there is no mention of the Red Box DI and no jacks on the amph for it. My guess is that MF just took another of their stupid shortcuts and copied a description from another H&K amph and used it for the ad copy.:( The Red Box would have been a huge asset.
I maybe that (part of) the Red Box circuitry was used internally to produce the speaker out jack as this does not bypass the amphs internal circuit.

If so, it would seem that they dropped the cab sim on that line, which makes sense if it is to go to another cab, but it would be nice to have the option with a combo/4x12/none switch.

All my blather on the Red Box is pure speculation. I know nothing.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Apparently some people have had their orders cancelled by Music123.

I have been given a tracking number, so I'm getting mine!

Vood, how about you?

[duhvoodooman]

Haven't heard anything, but I didn't buy until about 4 hrs. before the sale ended. The order status still shows "Approved", but who knows? If I get shut out, I'll make do with what I have, which is by no means bad!

[Spudman]

Mine is shipped but arriving the day that I'm leaving.:(

[duhvoodooman]

Just got off the phone w/ Music123 C/S. Item was oversold and my order has been cancelled & payment refunded. Guess I shouldn't have thought about it for so long before ordering! Such is life; no big deal....

[Spudman]

Just got off the phone w/ Music123 C/S. Item was oversold and my order has been cancelled & payment refunded. Guess I shouldn't have thought about it for so long before ordering! Such is life; no big deal....

Sorry to hear that Voodoo. I almost waited until I got back home Sunday and then thought better of it and ordered earlier.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Hey Spud, I didn't know that you ordered one as well. I'll have to go back & read the thread. I guess Sun'll have to go down to your place to get his H&K fix.

I was gonna wait out the weekend to decide, but then I got nervous as these kind of deals tend to go fast in this internet age.

I hope that it was the right decision.

[sunvalleylaw]

From the looks of things, I bet it is. Even if it is not what you want when you get it, it seems H&K products hold their re-sale value well and you could move it. Bet you won't though.

[Spudman]

From the looks of things, I bet it is. Even if it is not what you want when you get it, it seems H&K products hold their re-sale value well and you could move it. Bet you won't though.
+1 Totally.

[tot_Ou_tard]

I'm pretty stoked. :AOK:

[just strum]

Hey Spud, I didn't know that you ordered one as well. I'll have to go back & read the thread. I guess Sun'll have to go down to your place to get his H&K fix.



As soon as my spaceship gets out of the shop I will be visiting you.

[tot_Ou_tard]

As soon as my spaceship gets out of the shop I will be visiting you.
Make sure to polish it to a shining gleam.

A cherry candy-apple red spaceship will garner plenty of

spacial

OOoooooooOOOOoooooss

&

cometary


aaaAAAAaaAAAAaahhhs.

[just strum]

Make sure to polish it to a shining gleam.

A cherry candy-apple red spaceship will garner plenty of

spacial

OOoooooooOOOOoooooss

&

cometary


aaaAAAAaaAAAAaahhhs.


Don't worry buddy, it's a babe magnet.

You three Amigos really have me envious on the purchase of this amp. I'm looking forward to hearing some reviews (then again, maybe not). I mean I hope it's great, but maybe I don't want to hear it.

[duhvoodooman]

You three Amigos really have me envious on the purchase of this amp.
That's TWO amigos, Strum. I got shut out, per above post.... :reallymad:

[tot_Ou_tard]

Here is a young German dude playing some sweet blues on a 50's Custom Shop Tele through his H&K 20th Anniversary Tube Edition 20 in his bedroom. It's dated April 22, 2008 & sez that the amph is new.

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He has a bunch of other videos that are worth watching. In this one he's playing an Eastwood Airline Twin Tone guitar. He doesn't say what amph he's using, but his H&K is there in the background & it's dated June 2008.

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He likes to flip up his collar. Dig that Joe Bonamassa Poster on his wall.

Another one dated April 28, 2008. This one had Hughes&Kettner in the list of YouTube tags.

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How do I know that he is German?

Because of this video

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& the accompanying YouTube info

Added: June 24, 2008 (Less info (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR85HQIpWFI#))
On my father´s birthday I was invited to play a small session with some musicians I never played with before. My first appearance in the center of my hometown. Without any rehearsal we showed the crowd, how wonderful Blues can be. I hope my mentor Pete likes it, too.

Part 2:

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[sunvalleylaw]

Ok, I know you say that time spent learning to record is time away from learning to play, but you could at least videotape yourself like Tone did, or just a pic of the amp while you played, and upload it to youtube to give us a taste. :-)

BTW, that is so cool your H&K has been delivered. :D

(I posted this in another thread, and copied it over here for placement).

[tot_Ou_tard]

I just had some time with the new amph.

It's a real looker. It seems very well built. I love the grill & the script logo.

It's dwarfs my Champion 600.

It has a much better bass response (as one would expect with a 12" speaker: the 600 has a 6"). The sound was very well balanced & the amp had great touch response.

The clean tones were very, very nice. Different from the 600 but I don't yet know how to characterize the difference. I was very happy with the low-volume tone. Of course it sounds better as you turn up the volume. I only had it just above 3 & that worked very well for me in the basement.

I'll turn it up louder when I get the chance. I just barely tried the drive channel. It was EQ'd darker. It's gonna take me some time to get to know this amph, but I am very happy.

I played the Champion 600 right after the H&K. The bass seemed weak in comparison, but it still sounded great. I'll have a place for both.

I put the H&K on the large amp stand that I just got & the little Fender fit on a smaller amp stand right under it. I like the look very much.

Oh one thing that I've read about this amp is true. I have a footswitch & hook it up & switched from the clean to the drive channel. It made a loud popping noise. I'd rather it didn't do that, but I can live with it.

Thanks again Robert & Spud! :AOK: :AOK:

[tot_Ou_tard]

I have that stand - when you get it, reverse the "L" brackets so the bottom of the amp rests on the long section of of the "L". This puts the weight more centered and eliminates the top heaviness that is inherent in the design.
Do you have your AD30VT on yours? The H&K seems fine with the L's the usual way. The Tube 20 is heavier & bigger than the AD30VT though.

[Robert]

I SOOOO want to play this amph!

[Spudman]

I'm finally back home and mine is sitting in the box. I'll try to get some clips up early this week.

[tot_Ou_tard]

I finally got to spend a little quality time with this baby. It was built in Germany toward the end of 2006.

The bad news is that the reverb makes a whoosing/air-leaky sort of noise when playing notes near the nut on the open A string. The sound could drive someone nuts. I'm going to look into warranty service because I love this amph otherwise.

I've only really played the clean channel. It takes me a while to get to know a piece of gear. I played my Godin Radiator as that is the guitar that I play most often.

The sound is very clear, & precise, but with body. It has alot of top-end chime & a big bottom. I turned the treble down a bit as I was standing about 5 feet from the amp with it tilted at my head.

The amp is very touch-sensitive. I love this aspect.


It took every pedal & pickup adjustment with grace. I found sounds that I hadn't ever gotten from my gear before. The quality, presence, & power makes my Fender Champion 600 seem like a toy. I still love the warm pushed cleans on the 600 though. It has a different character so I *need* both ;).

It is a wonderful amph, or will be when I get the reverb fixed.

[Spudman]

I finally fired mine up and I can safely say...HELL YA! :AOK:

More objective review to follow after I use it at the gig tonight.:pancake:

[Spudman]

My sonic evaluation after playing it at a gig for 5 hours...Holy S***!:master:

It's like the cotton came out of my ears finally. With this amp I can hear everything clear as a bell and it sounds musical and expressive. It makes the Classic 30 sound cheap. All the harmonics are richer and fuller. Every note is clear and smooth. This makes all my other amps sound like poop.

For the gig tonight I only used the clean channel with the volume around 1:30 and it was plenty loud. I didn't have to work so hard to play either. Playing was physically easier. I guess I didn't realize how much work the Classic 30 was making me do and now this amp is doing the work instead. It has great sustain and a lovely bottom that is full and clear but not boxy or woofy.

I set the treble at 1 o'clock, mid at noon and bass at 10 o'clock. I used the Squier Deluxe and it sounded amazing. I got a lot of compliments tonight from other musicians and the crowd too. The clean sound reminded me of a Deluxe Reverb nice and chimey-like. When I kicked in the Tube Screamer it was a revelation practically. You know how the Tube Screamer usually takes away some bottom end? Well the amp makes up for it. There is still plenty of bottom with the TS on. The tone controls on the amp do change the character of the sound quite a bit.

All my pedals sounded better as well. They were clearer and probably more like they are supposed to sound. Definitely more hi-fi than with the C30. All pedals went directly into the front of the amp. Nothing in the loop. Even my DD5 digital delay sounded great this way.

For a low wattage amp I'm pretty impressed. I've always used 40 or 50 watt amps in the past but the way this little bugger works I don't see much of a reason to use the higher wattage amps.

I played the dirty channel at home before I left for the gig and it's amazing. I thought I might use that channel so I attempted to set it up at the beginning of the gig. IT"S LOUD! so I didn't use it...this time.;)

[tot_Ou_tard]

My guitar playing experience is, of course, less extensive & less authorative than our dear Skyrawker, but I agree with all of these statements.


With this amp I can hear everything clear as a bell and it sounds musical and expressive...Every note is clear and smooth.

I didn't have to work so hard to play either. Playing was physically easier. I guess. It has great sustain and a lovely bottom that is full and clear but not boxy or woofy.

;)

[Robert]

Oh man! I want this amp right now! :mad: :D

Since I was kind enough to let you know about this fantastic amp on sale, it would be fair for you guys to go together and find me one of these, and drop it off on my doorstep. :D You can even drive a brown truck, if you want to make it look authentic! :eek:

[sunvalleylaw]

Congrats Steveo! (And tot, esp. when you get your reverb figured out) I will enjoy hearing it sometime.

[M29]

Oh man I wants it:rockon:

Thank you for the reviews you guys, ya got me fret farting all over the place from the GAS.............

M29

[Spudman]

Sorry to be fueling the fire so to speak but I really am impressed. Would I have ever paid suggested retail for the amp? Not likely, but at the blowout price it was a steal. Out of the 11 amplifiers I have this one just really has it goin' on. I'd almost expect a 20 watt amph with this much bottom to only be found at Weight Watchers.

Maybe you can watch Craig's List and ebay for some barely used ones. I'll bet a couple of guys got them and don't really get what the amp is about and will probably sell them shortly.

One small thing to niggle about is that even with the volume completely off when I plug a cable in to the amp input I get a pop. Seems like there is a hot front end signal and the volume knob can't completely cut it out.

[tot_Ou_tard]

I had the volume up to reasonable home levels on the clean channel & boy does she sound sweet. I can't wait for the speaker to break in.

It sounds great nekkid, but it also takes very well to being pushed with a clean boost or dirt pedal.

[warren0728]

I'd almost expect a 20 watt amph with this much bottom to only be found at Weight Watchers.
now that's some sig material right there! :bravo: :beer:

ww

[Spudman]

God I love this amp! I keep getting more compliments on my sound since I started using this amph. It roars on the dirty channel like nothing I've ever heard. My friends all ask me "how many watts did you say" as their jaws hit the floor.

I used my Ibanez S470 tonight and it was slaying totally. I could get more tones from that guitar than ever before. Crystal cleans and nice thick meaty solo tones too. I get more and better sounds from all my guitars and it's easier to play. The amp is wonderfully sensitive. What an awesome amph.

Thanks again for the heads up Mr. Forum Boss.

[tot_Ou_tard]

O Man Spud!

I had just decided that mine is going back to Music123. I don't have to pay shipping due to the reverb problem.

It's a great sounding amp. Very touch sensitive. Nice solid bottom & lots'a chime, but I don't play out.

Most of my playing is with headphones through my Tonelab.

At the volumes that I get to play my Champion 600 has more complexity as I can crank it up.

I was driving myself crazy as I kept turning up the volume & then worrying that all my neighbors (I live in a town house) were being treated to a loud symphony of my clams--very touch-sensitive clams.

It distracted me from focusing on learning to play.

If I played out, or my neighbors were farther away, or I had the house to myself more often, I'd keep it in a heartbeat.

[Robert]

Oh Spud, you are killing me.

Tot, I have the address for where you can ship it.... :D

[tot_Ou_tard]

Tot, I have the address for where you can ship it.... :D
That's alright I already have your address:

Robert "Returns" Renman
Music 123
4001 Norflleet
Kansas City, MO 64161

[Lev]

So it's been several months since some Fretters took the plunge on this baby. How do guys feel about the amp now? I'm looking for someting to gig with that has some more bottom end and sustain than my HRDlx. This seems to fit the bill in terms of price and portability. Just wondring if you guys are still in love with this amph?

[tot_Ou_tard]

I returned mine due to problems with the reverb.

[Spudman]

I like mine. I get more than enough bottom end from such a small amph. The one thing I can tell you is that it is tube picky. You'll need to experiment or talk to someone more knowledgeable than me to figure out what set will work best. I didn't like the TADs that came in it after I had used it for a while. First they didn't hold up well and went bad, and second the drive channel needs taming. It's got too much gain. So a lower output preamp tube would be better suited for the gain section.

[oldguy]

I like mine. I get more than enough bottom end from such a small amph. The one thing I can tell you is that it is tube picky. You'll need to experiment or talk to someone more knowledgeable than me to figure out what set will work best. I didn't like the TADs that came in it after I had used it for a while. First they didn't hold up well and went bad, and second the drive channel needs taming. It's got too much gain. So a lower output preamp tube would be better suited for the gain section.

What tubes are you running in it now, Spudman?
Did you find a preamp tube better suited to the gain section?

[Spudman]

What tubes are you running in it now, Spudman?
Did you find a preamp tube better suited to the gain section?

I have Sovteks in the power section, an EH12AX7 on the clean pre and I can't remember what the other one is for the gain channel. I might have found an AT or something. I can't remember.

I'm still not 100% good with the tube selection but I'm not hurrying to use it either as I have plenty of other working amphs. When I get around to it after it becomes a priority I'll see what else I can stick in there that might sound good. Maybe by then some of the tubes stores might have some feedback on what works good with that amph.