GAS ATTACK! Washburn D10SCELHBK!

**WackyT** · January 20th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Just scored a 2008 Washburn D10SCELHBK off eBay!

**Blaze** · January 20th, 2009, 06:10 PM

Good for you Wack ,looks nice ..

**evenkeel** · January 20th, 2009, 06:13 PM

Way nice!!!!

**luvmyshiner** · January 20th, 2009, 06:33 PM

Very nice Wacky! You're going to enjoy it lotses.

duhvoodooman*** · January 20th, 2009, 06:41 PM

Cool! Enjoy it....

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**Rocket** · January 20th, 2009, 07:46 PM

Oh no... not P-Hill!

You should read up on Jeffy over at the Washburn forum before you give up your money.
Seriously!

Washburn guys... help me out here to warn WackyT.

Robert**** · January 20th, 2009, 07:48 PM

Congrats! Looks like the image is mirrored, what's up with that? ....

Now, let's hear you strum that sucka!

**tjcurtin1** · January 20th, 2009, 07:59 PM

Looks nice - you gone lefty on us?

**WackyT** · January 20th, 2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket

Oh no... not P-Hill!

You should read up on Jeffy over at the Washburn forum before you give up your money.
Seriously!

Washburn guys... help me out here to warn WackyT.

What's P-Hill? If it's a seller on eBay, I bought this from Butler Music Store.

Thanks everyone! I've been a lefty since I was born. My mom had to get my grandma, a fellow lefty, to teach me how to tie my shoes when I was growing up.

**Algonquin** · January 20th, 2009, 09:05 PM

Looks good Tim

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Enjoy the new geetar!

**Rocket** · January 20th, 2009, 09:14 PM

Butler, P-Hill, same-O same-O.
See seller is P-Hill (Jeff Sefton)
P-Hill buys up all the damaged, defective, blemished, cracked, broken, etc. garbage that is retail unsellable... and then sells it on eBay to unsuspecting customers.
It's your money, but buyer beware.

**WackyT** · January 20th, 2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket

Butler, P-Hill, same-O same-O.
See seller is P-Hill (Jeff Sefton)
P-Hill buys up all the damaged, defective, blemished, cracked, broken, etc. garbage that is retail unsellable... and then sells it on eBay to unsuspecting customers.
It's your money, but buyer beware.

Thanks for the warning. I'll be sure to go over the guitar fully when I get it.

Also, from the auction:

This guitar ( and all of the others I will be listing as specials) come with the full factory lifetime warranty and is in all respects a new guitar.

So, this isn't a B-Stock item with no warranty.

**Rocket** · January 20th, 2009, 10:06 PM

This probably won't surprise you... he lies!
Do a search on Washburn forum to see the real P-Hill... Jeffy threatened to sue us all with his giant legal team (heh-heh) for warning his customers. Problem was... nobody said anything untrue.
Ask around... ask Dreadman and the rest of the Washburn transfers.

Keep in mind that the price + shipping and you could've walked into a store and gotten a brand new (and undefective) same model for same price.
Nuff said... you've been warned... I feel better anyway.

**luvmyshiner** · January 20th, 2009, 10:18 PM

Gotta go with Rocket on this one. Look it over REAL well. Mr. Sefton has been known to sell b-stock without bothering to mention it was b-stock. He has also known to "claim" there were only minor blemishes when there were structural defects. And yes, he has threatened to sue a few folks.

Wacky, if you find anything wrong send it back right away.

**WackyT** · January 20th, 2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket

This probably won't surprise you... he lies!
Do a search on Washburn forum to see the real P-Hill... Jeffy threatened to sue us all with his giant legal team (heh-heh) for warning his customers. Problem was... nobody said anything untrue.
Ask around... ask Dreadman and the rest of the Washburn transfers.

Keep in mind that the price + shipping and you could've walked into a store and gotten a brand new (and undefective) same model for same price.
Nuff said... you've been warned... I feel better anyway.

Well, seeing as I bought it for $275 w/ free shipping, and a comparable one (natural finish, not black) from Musician's Friend is $439, I don't think I could've gotten it locally for the same price I paid.

I did a search on the Washburn Forums for P-Hill, and found a mixture of good and bad. I did a search for Jeffy on there, and came up with nil. Can you direct me to a post where someone got a nonwarrantied B Stock item from an eBay auction from this seller advertising a warrantied new item? If you want to, you can message me the URL.

Thanks again.

**Rocket** · January 20th, 2009, 10:46 PM

I think a former Washburn moderator (browndog) deleted all the negs about P-Hill & Sefton in particular... then he warned us to not blab about Washburn dealers (negatively, of course.) Didn't stop us. Let's put it this way... he's gone, we're still there!
Hey, it's your dollars. I just wanted to warn you because I always feel the need to protect compadres. You can always return it if it's not what it should be.
Note: I'm pretty sure Washburn won't honor the warranty. P-Hill is not an actual dealer... it's a reseller. Big difference.

Edit: Read through these...
http://forums.washburn.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7206
http://forums.washburn.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5778

**WackyT** · January 20th, 2009, 11:11 PM

Just checked on the Washburn website for Dealers, and came up with this:

Results of search near 64730

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37 miles
View Map P HILL AUCTION

214 1ST STREET

PLEASANT HILL, MO 64080
816-540-2400
auctions@kcweb.net

64730 is the zip code for Butler Music. Looks like P-Hill is an authorized Washburn dealer. Sounds like some people have a vendetta out for this store. I'll be sure to fully check out the guitar when I get it. And I'll be sure to register it on the Washburn website when I get it, seeing as the say it's under full warranty. Thanks again.

**Kazz** · January 21st, 2009, 05:00 AM

Nobody including Rocket, Shiner or myself have/had any vendetta against Jeff Sefton. There were plenty of threads and posts in reference to Mr. Sefton and has poor customer service. I was one of the lucky ones. The guitar I ordered from him when it showed up was completely the wrong model. I ordered a D10SCEB and received a D10QSB the quilting was pretty cool even tho it was orange and not the red that was being shown in all of the pictures I had looked at prior. I called complained...he pretty much refused to send me the correct guitar until the 3rd time I called. He wanted me to ship the mistake back to him at my expense. Finally got him to agree to issue a call tag and ship the D10SCEB...when it arrived it definitely was not the one listed in the auction and it was supposed to be actual photos not stock. He also never issued a call tag for the D10QSB....so I kept it too.

Have long since sold the D10SCEB and gave the D10QSB to a family friend who always had an eye on it when they would come visit.

Caveat Emptor.......check it out yourself....take it to a respectable luthier too.....and if anything is wrong with it or Washburn does not honor the warranty (and they have been known to not do that frequently) Then send it back to Jeff and get a refund.....if he will do that. Good luck

**Rocket** · January 21st, 2009, 07:55 AM

Ok... you caught me... it was a total fabrication. I think you should buy a bunch more from P-Hill because they are a premier dealer in quality, first choice instruments.
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1) I have no vendetta for P-Hill.
2) They may have become a dealer since all of that went down.
3) I don't care what you spend your money on... it was merely a heads-up.

I totally understand that some folks just don't care to hear warnings from strangers... independent human nature and all that!
I still feel good about doing my part.

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