Some bizz guitar saling site

**Blaze** · February 6th, 2009, 10:08 AM

Is it me or there s something wrong in here ,have a look at these Gibsons & their prices ..

http://www.ioffer.com/i/40217866

**Gil Janus** · February 6th, 2009, 10:31 AM

They look like Made In China un-authorized rip-offs to me, but what do I know

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I would stear clear myself - get an Agile from rondomusic - at least you could get some support from the seller.

Again, my 2-cents-plain

Gil

**Rocket** · February 6th, 2009, 10:35 AM

http://www.vintagerock.com/fakeguitars.aspx

**evenkeel** · February 6th, 2009, 12:32 PM

I was just in a shop with a "Gibson ES-335". Sunburst, bigsby, gold hardware. Chinese knockoff. Owner was totally up front about it. Took it on trade knowing what it was. The shop owner said the Chinese knock offs are becoming very common and getting harder to spot. He also indicated some of them are actually ok guitars, others are horrid.

**aeolian** · February 6th, 2009, 12:59 PM

These are certainly fakes from China which has been floating around for the last few years. If anyone is going to buy himself a Gibson he better learn how to spot the fakes (getting harder every time the crooks learn something else to change), learn about Gibson's serial number system and all the other little evidences that identifies a real one.

I will also not buy a used SM57 or SM58 either because the fakes are getting really hard to recognize.

**markb** · February 6th, 2009, 01:22 PM

Some are sold without case. Gibsons with no case? The prices are less than half that of the equivalent Epiphone in NZ dollars. I'd say fake, very dodgy indeed.

**Suhnton** · February 6th, 2009, 10:14 PM

If they're getting harder to spot the fakes, it probably also means the build quality isn't too bad. For 20,000 yen I'd probably buy one, in the knowledge I picked up a decent knockaround guitar. I'd just be concerned whether the other end would actually send the thing if I ordered one.

**Auriemma** · February 7th, 2009, 09:01 AM

The headstock is the give-away: Gibsun

**Blaze** · February 7th, 2009, 05:27 PM

Here s what this site is all about ,guitars here are just part of it ..

What is iOffer?

iOffer is an interactive online community that allows its members to buy, sell, and trade through open negotiations, viewable to the general public.
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Does it cost anything to register, buy or negotiate on iOffer?

No. iOffer is FREE for buyers. Sellers only pay a small fee when an item is sold or use Feauture Enhancements.
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Do I need a credit card to register?

No. You may register without using a credit card. However, in order to list items for sale you will need to either (1) place a credit card on file, (2) make a payment via PayPal of at least $20 or (3) send in a pre-payment of at least $20 (for seller fees incurred in the future).

**Suhnton** · February 7th, 2009, 05:42 PM

I clicked on one of the guitars and read the buyer's comments. Man, talk about trouble. Then again,　all the telltale signs are there: Seller name: xingyunshangshang, a box with Chinese characters printed all over it in the background (oops

: ), grammar indicating English is obviously a second language. And why would the seller also sell Oriental furniture? (oops again

. I take back what I said in my earlier post, I wouldn't go anywhere near these (although there was a 3 pickup white LP that did look luverly).

P.S: Please don't take my comments as discriminatory of race (I'm a quarter Chinese myself).

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