Not at all, this is the sort of stuff I'm looking for.Originally Posted by mrmudcat
Not at all, this is the sort of stuff I'm looking for.Originally Posted by mrmudcat
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A quote from my Fender ProTube Twin-Amp User Manual...
POWER - Switches power ON and OFF to the
amplifier. (Reduce the “shock” to amplifier tubes at
power-up, extending their life span, by turning the
POWER switch ON with the STAND BY switch
DOWN for the first minute, then UP for normal use.
STAND BY - In the DOWN position, this switch puts
the amp on stand by. Audio is muted and power is
supplied only to the tube filaments. Use STAND BY
in place of switching POWER OFF during short
breaks (one hour max.). This eliminates the normal
warm-up time when STAND BY is switched OFF (UP)
when returning to play the amplifier and also extends
the life span of your amplifier’s tubes.
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Originally Posted by Mick
Mick I know it is black and white in the manual you grabbed this from but again in my humble opinion it is wrong/misleading or at best another way other than what ive learned.You turn the amp on without the standby switch on. The tubes warm up nice and you go about playing after warmup.(10-15 minutes) If your not ready then engage the standby switch.My fender manuals like yours say the opposite but after many years and many opinions from techs ,and other musicians etc. etc.
this way makes the most sense to me.Having the standby switch engaged on intial power up does not allow the tubes to fully get warm and ive seen a few times where powering up that way ,then hitting the standby off after a minute or two cause fuses and or tubes to blow!:
Just my humble opinion ......nothing more
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Ditto......... plus my old Fenders always sounded better when the tubes got hot and stayed hot, IMHO.
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I'm a new member; I'm not much for big introductions, and this thread isn't the place anyway... Hello all.
Anyway, if you take a look at the old data sheets for tubes you'll see most of them state the proper warm up time. A 12AX7 for instance needs 12 seconds or so, bigger tubes will take longer. I think a 6L6 is something like 30 sec, but I'm not sure. Large rectifier tubes take about the same, but some are quicker than others depending on the model. The standby switch comes after the rectifier in the power supply line so, depending on what type of rectifier your amp uses that will delay the B+ by itself, even if you switch off standby immediately after you power up the amp.
Smaller amps with lower B+ voltages don't even have or need standby switches.
Basically, I say that 1-2 minutes is a long enough warm up time depending on the amp. Of course, you should always follow what the manual says.
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Welcome and indeed 2 minutes is enough to warm up the tubes...I give them 10 -15 minutes as stated ........Ill just keep doing what has worked for me but thought id offer my opinion.
Just looked at my manual for the vintage/modern marshall and it states to turn on without standby on and after two minutes warmup you are good to go then you can hit standby if not playing.: Exactly opposite of my fender hrd manual:
Also I have seen personally the HT fuse,main fuse and tubes go bad when somone has turned on their tube amp with the stanby switch on and within a minute or two flip the switch to play just to hear a pop..of course there is a delay for a few seconds while the HT or Main fuse does the slow burn
Anyways to each his own
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...is turning the volume full bore helpful in getting things all warm and fuzzy, or does it not, and, does it hurt the amp any to do this (or not) with the guitar cord not plugged in the amp?
Stupid minds want to know!
Q #2 - doesn't the standby mode do quicker damage to the amp, maybe the tranny? I heard long ago that stand-by mode was injurious to the amps internals.
Muddy,Originally Posted by mrmudcat
I thought that one of the benefits of the standby switch is that it allows easy start-up for the tubes thus reducing wear & tear--extending their lives. (As Rx sez above.)
It would seem that the way to go would be to turn on the amp with the standby switch on, wait a couple of minutes and then turn the standby switch off to let the amp warm up.
You can later put the standy switch back on if you are going to take a break from playing.
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