Wth.

**ibanezjunkie** · May 17th, 2009, 08:27 AM

£1149 EPIPHONE?!?!

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/80466

??

how can an epiphone out price many of its gibson friends? :O

**Rx Tone** · May 17th, 2009, 08:54 AM

...and why would anyone want one.

**ragnarpk** · May 17th, 2009, 08:58 AM

its an elitist.

**just strum** · May 17th, 2009, 09:47 AM

It's an Elitist, in many cases a better guitar.

**ibanezjunkie** · May 17th, 2009, 10:47 AM

but surely, being as how its an epiphone, and probably manufactured in asia (like most epiphones but i know some are made in USA) wouldnt a gibson les paul standard be better?

**ragnarpk** · May 17th, 2009, 11:03 AM

ooooh no.

while gibson quality has been declining, the elitists were apparently getting too good, so epiphone had to discontinue them.

they've always been on par with the gibsons. which is why i got one.

**ibanezjunkie** · May 17th, 2009, 11:12 AM

makes sense.

why would they discontinue them for being too good? theyre all part of gibson arent they :L

and gibby quality definately let slide with the 'Robot' series. they remind me of an Encore guitar i got from argos a few years back.

**ragnarpk** · May 17th, 2009, 11:25 AM

i don't know why, that's just the word on the street

they remind me of an Encore guitar i got from argos a few years back.

**mrmudcat** · May 17th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie

makes sense.

why would they discontinue them for being too good? theyre all part of gibson arent they :L

and gibby quality definately let slide with the 'Robot' series. they remind me of an Encore guitar i got from argos a few years back.

Do you own a robot?? What is it about the quality did you not like about your robot

:
My boys love theirs and being able to use different tunings on the fly has opened doors for them. I have /had a bad injury lately to my left arm and it indeed has been handy tuning wise

(price of course is a joke and name only based) Gibby has heard the noise and I think they are doing some things better quality wise on some models.The plekking machine for the frets is a plus fo-sho.
The one I got was close to flawless and has worked perfect.(My opinion is there is a flaw in every guitar

: )
I got a some what rarer limited one with body /headstock binding and holly.Hate to say it but its no encore brother

http://www.thefret.net/showthread.php?t=10818

**just strum** · May 17th, 2009, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by ragnarpk

ooooh no.

while gibson quality has been declining, the elitists were apparently getting too good, so epiphone had to discontinue them.

The Elitist Casino is still in production. They dropped the remaining Elitist series because of the overlap in price that didn't make business sense. As for quality and performance between Epi and Gibson, that will be the endless debate. I know that the Epiphone is great bang for the buck and the Elitist series was and is still a good buy.

**mrmudcat** · May 17th, 2009, 12:20 PM

I think Tak is well known over in Asia (Japan) and Europe I might be wrong but I think he has alot of collectible gibby's including one of Duanes.If it is the same dude.He also has many guitarist friends in the states and has played wrote songs collaborated with some greats.Here is a wiki link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tak_Matsumoto

**ragnarpk** · May 17th, 2009, 12:38 PM

... i know a guy called tak matsumoto. so this makes me chuckle.

**ibanezjunkie** · May 17th, 2009, 01:59 PM

the thing about the robot is...its really unbalanced and the tuner is okay but more often than not it throws your intonation right out.

i just got pissed off with all the fiddling and pissing around. i sold it for £800 and bought my ibanez, and my marshall.

**mrmudcat** · May 17th, 2009, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie

the thing about the robot is...its really unbalanced and the tuner is okay but more often than not it throws your intonation right out.

i just got pissed off with all the fiddling and pissing around. i sold it for £800 and bought my ibanez, and my marshall.

Unbalanced as in headstock heavy??? The tuners and tuning system is lighter than most tuners(gotohs etc etc)
Powerhead tuner =46.5g a piece a Gotoh tuner=49g a total of 15 grams lighter per set.My humble opinion is it is balanced and hopefully being lighter doesn't rob sustain.

Not sure what gibby tuners(vintage style or grovers,others weigh in at.

Intonation on mine is spot on or real close anyways

Plus it can fix it by itself if ya make it

: You can pull the pegs out and manually tune it also. Not trying to be confrontational just curious of other owners opinions

I can see failure in the future if the cpu's fail,or sweat from stage use messes up the pcb under bridge.Ours is staying in house/studio

UPDATED:Info on powertuners weight wise.

**ibanezjunkie** · May 17th, 2009, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by mrmudcat

Unbalanced as in headstock heavy??? The tuners and tuning system is lighter than most tuners(grovers etc etc)

Intonation on mine is spot on or real close anyways

Plus it can fix it by itself if ya make it

: You can pull the pegs out and manually tune it also. Not trying to be confrontational just curious of other owners opinions

its all well and good if you like em mate good on you, but it just wasnt for me. im GASing for the dark fire though.

**mrmudcat** · May 17th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Exactly brother if ya know me its always good,I do like spirited debates when they arise though. (not this thread)

I do like honest real opinions based on user expierience of course and constantly seek knowledge

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