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    Default Review..what would a newbie think?

    Here's a line from an amph review in this month's issue of a guitar magazine.

    "........it's not a creamy or liquid tone....we're talking greasy, swarthy, high cholesterol gain, dripping with juicy overtones."

    I'm all for desciptive adjectives and adverbs when descibing gear.........but....how helpful would it be for a beginner looking for a new amplifier?


    I see creamy, liquid, greasy, dripping, and juicy in one sentence and have no idea what sound this review is trying to descibe, or if he's even talking about an amph, a bad restaraunt, or an adult film!
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    Hmm, not so helpful to me. I get what warm, scooped, lots of head room, bright, and terms like that mean, though of course each person defines those terms slightly differently. I guess I would take the above description as "dirty", but what do I know.
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    Don't know what it means, but it's making me hungry (and horny)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyshiner
    Don't know what it means, but it's making me hungry (and horny)!

    Ok, that is officially an "overshare" Less information next time please.
    Last edited by sunvalleylaw; June 6th, 2009 at 03:13 PM.
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    It's a dod eat dog world out there. Marketing depts are scouring every dictionary and thesaurus they can find to "outdo" the competition...my 2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigG
    It's a dod eat dog world out there. Marketing depts are scouring every dictionary and thesaurus they can find to "outdo" the competition...my 2 cents

    My dod eats batteries, but not dogs..........
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    sounds like hes talking about the hard rock cafe in toronto.
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    I dunno, the descriptions make sense to me.
    I pick a moon dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
    I dunno, the descriptions make sense to me.
    Finally! Someone who understands the difference!
    What would be an amp you'd hear as "creamy and liquid", and what would be one you'd consider "greasy, dripping with juicy overtones" amp?
    I want to find a youtube of each of these descriptions to help me decide on my next amp!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy
    Finally! Someone who understands the difference!
    What would be an amp you'd hear as "creamy and liquid", and what would be one you'd consider "greasy, dripping with juicy overtones" amp?
    I want to find a youtube of each of these descriptions to help me decide on my next amp!!!!!
    Isn't Dumble about being creamy & smooth?

    For "greasy, swarthy, high cholesterol gain, dripping with juicy overtones"
    I'd think an old school class A amp cranked until it's about to fall apart. A Swart might be a modern equivalent. I've heard descriptions of brownface
    Fenders & old Gibson amps that might fit the bill.
    I pick a moon dog.

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    I never quite could figure out the reasoning behind terms like "brown sound" or "woman tone", but I have decided my Mack amp has a "green with pink polkadots sound", and this creates the "middle-aged but youthful looking man tone".
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunvalleylaw
    Ok, that is officially an "overshare" Less information next time please.
    Sorry Steve. I realize in retrospect the post was redundant. Just assume every time I post that I'm hungry (and horny), and I'll tell you when I'm not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
    Isn't Dumble about being creamy & smooth?

    For "greasy, swarthy, high cholesterol gain, dripping with juicy overtones"
    I'd think an old school class A amp cranked until it's about to fall apart. A Swart might be a modern equivalent. I've heard descriptions of brownface
    Fenders & old Gibson amps that might fit the bill.
    I dunno......that's why I'm asking. After all, "cream" is mostly fat, and fat is grease. Both are high cholesterol, as is the juicy juice from a greasy steak.
    The steak goes down easy "smooth" w/ a cold beer.............maybe I really want a smooth "beery" amp!
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    Understood Shiner, I was already presuming that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyshiner
    Sorry Steve. I realize in retrospect the post was redundant. Just assume every time I post that I'm hungry (and horny), and I'll tell you when I'm not.
    I just assumed every time you posted you were creamy, smooth, greasy, juicy, and ready for another cold one!
    (correct me if I'm wrong, I hate for people to pigeonhole me, and I'd never want to do that to someone else!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy
    I dunno......that's why I'm asking. After all, "cream" is mostly fat, and fat is grease.
    Ahhh, but there's a difference between a milkshake & greasy ribs. That's what we are talking about.
    I pick a moon dog.

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    Something tells me that portions of this thread will be referenced in the future - sort of like amph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
    Ahhh, but there's a difference between a milkshake & greasy ribs. That's what we are talking about.
    True, but a milkshake isn't a creamshake, and it's cold. When an amph's biased cold it supposedly doesn't sound good. Greasy ribs taste good, but don't neccesarily sound good. So what we're talking about is sound, not taste. Some people's taste is all in their mouth, and fat or grease dulls the taste buds, which may explain why comparing amphs using adjectives normally reserved for foods/drinks can be confusing. It would also depend on what type ribs one was eating........... pork and beef ribs are commonly eaten, but baby seal ribs would require one to be biased differently I would imagine, as would raw seal heart.
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    "The overdrive has the raw, bloody, juicy, oozing tone, warm yet furry, with enough heart to satisfy the purist who longs for the sound of days gone by."
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    What ever happened to the 'meat and potatoes' amphs? And what about fried and toasted amphs? Are those any good?

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