Some guitar players you should hear, if you haven't already!

Tig*** · October 28th, 2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by msteeln

Here he's with a dapper lil whipper snapper named Cole Davis, who might have a future on the guitar...

You ain't kidding. Cole Davis has some serious skills.

Jimmy Vaughan has been overshadowed by Stevie, but his sublime playing is incredible.

**guitartango** · October 28th, 2009, 05:01 PM

Ok here are a few Brits !

And this guy makes guitar playing so easy, but no one can play like him

**markb** · October 28th, 2009, 05:08 PM

I'm compiling a few British players to add to this. Hank B was on my list too.

**wingsdad** · October 28th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by deeaa

Dude,

a.) almost all these guys, never heard of 'em.

...

That's hilarious.

At least in a guitar player's forum, anyway.

deeaa* · October 28th, 2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Kazz

I assume that Torrenting is not illegal in Finland?

Um, it's a matter of debate. Using and downloading and even upping to the net aren't basically. Using for monetary gain is, and sharing at least in large quantities, i.e. with intent to distribute, is.

But yeah, basically there is no law saying I can't download whatever I find on the net.

Using whatever I download, though, is another matter, but as long as I'm not running a company that somehow benefits from using, say pirated software in its functions, it's basically allowed, although there is constant debate on how does it work.

There have been a few trials where they have charged people who have shared, say a 100.000 songs or whatever for years, generating huge traffic...but as long as it's comparable to home taping etc. or just personal use downloads, it may be frowned upon and debated, but there really is no legal basis to forbid it. We'll see if it changes.

deeaa* · October 28th, 2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by wingsdad

That's hilarious.

At least in a guitar player's forum, anyway.

I guess...but you gotta understand, I'm scandinavian...not all things american are so well known here. I'm sure you wouldn't know the players in Finnish, French or German bands too well :-)

Like I posted in another thread, I don't think for instance country music is listened to basically at all outside U.S. although I was very surprised a lot of them older country songs etc. and stuff like Johnny Cash is turned into children's music and dance songs and people in most cases don't even know the original tune is some obscure (to us) american song, like 'Riders in the Sky' 'Crocodile Rock' etc.

**markb** · October 28th, 2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by deeaa

...obscure (to us) american song, like 'Riders in the Sky' 'Crocodile Rock' etc.

"Crocodile Rock" is an Elton John song. Elton John is originally from Pinner, just north of London, UK. A British song then, recorded in France iirc. You really are isolated in Finland, aren't you?

I have to admit I haven't heard of many of the blues players in this thread but I don't listen much to modern blues rock.

deeaa* · October 29th, 2009, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by markb

"Crocodile Rock" is an Elton John song. Elton John is originally from Pinner, just north of London, UK. A British song then, recorded in France iirc. You really are isolated in Finland, aren't you?

I have to admit I haven't heard of many of the blues players in this thread but I don't listen much to modern blues rock.

Oh. I didn't know that. Never listened to any Elton that I know of, all I know of him are the hits you can't have missed, like when Diana died etc. Not my kind of music.

But I suppose most Finns know crocodile rock in Finnish first, most probably don't know it's Elton's...this is the version I remember:

**mrmudcat** · October 29th, 2009, 12:34 AM

**Radioboy950** · October 29th, 2009, 07:13 AM

I've been on a Budda amp kick these days, gassin for a Superdrive, and discovered Davey Knowles.
He's right there on the Budda homepage.
Look forward to hearing more from him. He really rips on that Bob & Tom studio clip!

Tig*** · October 29th, 2009, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Radioboy950

I've been on a Budda amp kick these days, gassin for a Superdrive, and discovered Davey Knowles.

Check out Davey's cover of "Redhouse" from the Backdoor Slam EP.
Of the many recorded versions of "Redhouse", this is the best IMO. This young guy has got some soul!

I couldn't find a video as good as the performance on the EP, but this is close enough:

**guitartango** · October 29th, 2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by wingsdad

That's hilarious.

At least in a guitar player's forum, anyway.

Is Finland a third world country (lol)

**Perfect Stranger** · October 29th, 2009, 05:47 PM

Davey Knowles is one of the best up and coming blues players out there!
I really like BDS albums....just about worn them out.

**oldguy** · October 29th, 2009, 06:46 PM

Lots of Canadians prob'ly 'member Frank. I sure do. Doubt if he's well known in Finland, tho.

Tig*** · October 29th, 2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by oldguy

Lots of Canadians prob'ly 'member Frank. I sure do. Doubt if he's well known in Finland, tho.

Wow, how could we have forgotten to bring up Frank? I remember him in the 70's as the first guy who could cover Hendrex well.

Gotta' play Dragonfly (wish I found better audio). He gets rolling at about 30 seconds:

deeaa* · October 29th, 2009, 11:16 PM

Hey, I actually have had a Frank Marino album on tape! Might still have it somewhere. I know many Canadian bands, just the other day I found some old Helix albums. Isn't Danko Jones Canadian - they're one of my favorite bands. Rush is also very big in Finland, I have friends who've traveled to other countries just to see Rush. And Annihilator was Canadian? What about Billy Talent, I think at least some of the guys are Canadian...and Talent's II album is maybe the best album I have heard in maybe 10 years and definitely will be a classic. The Tragically Hip as well...I've known a couple of Canadians and I always thought it must be much similar to Finland in some respects over there. There are two countries in the world I might consider moving into other than here, if I had a good job offer to work there, and they're Canada and New Zealand. (My wife is a scientist (biochemistry) and there is a possibility she'll have to go work at some big international university to do some studies for a year or two and us the family may be forced to have to live wherever it will be for a while. Her colleague just moved to California to do some study thing.) We also had a half-canadian bass player in our band for 4 years.

I suppose it's just that I don't - and I don't think many finns either - listen to this blues and country stuff. It's so...I don't know. I think of someone listening to blues or country, I think of truck drivers. No offense meant, seriously. But it's just not popular here among regular folk. Even musicians I guess. Jazz and such is big, stuff like Miles Davis and, I dunno, Jaco Pastorius, Bootsy Collins, would be better known, and there are of course some blues/jazz acts that are big here and well known...but bluesy country style rock, not so much. And to be honest, most of that stuff sounds just like the next song to me anyway. Can't really tell many SRV's song apart from the next for instance, always the same chords, manners, licks. I suppose it's supposed to be very simple music but to me country music very often sounds like one big song. You could just change the words and feel a little and that'd be another song even if it had the same beat and chords.

I reckon in country music lyrics are also important, but there's a catch - nobody in a non-english-speaking country care a rat's *** about the lyrics. So they are completely lost on people. I could make songs about raping dead grandmothers and play that on a fine dinner party as a beautiful ballad and very few people would even flinch. Even I - although I view myself as rather competent with English - very rarely listen to lyrics on songs. So that may be one factor taking away from the appeal of country and blues.

marnold*** · October 30th, 2009, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by deeaa

I reckon in country music lyrics are also important, but there's a catch - nobody in a non-english-speaking country care a rat's *** about the lyrics. So they are completely lost on people. I could make songs about raping dead grandmothers and play that on a fine dinner party as a beautiful ballad and very few people would even flinch. Even I - although I view myself as rather competent with English - very rarely listen to lyrics on songs. So that may be one factor taking away from the appeal of country and blues.

In most cases with popular music, you're not missing anything if you don't understand the music. Plus, even if you extremely proficient in the language, it's often difficult to tell exactly what the singer is saying.

Re: the Finnish version of Crocodile Rock, I particularly enjoyed the Chipmunks on background vocals. I remember hearing the Beatles doing "She Loves You" in German "Sie liebt dich, ja, ja, ja" and giggling quietly to myself. Even my feeble German skills could figure that one out.

I don't know why everybody here is so surprised that Finnish native wouldn't be familiar with everything that Americans take for granted. American culture is spreading throughout the world (not unlike the plague) but that doesn't mean that people everywhere should know everything that we do.