Looking at Macs

**SuperSwede** · October 29th, 2009, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by deeaa

There is basically no hardware difference between macs and pc's these day

Except for some chips that the PC doesnt have and thus prevents Mac OS from being installed on a standard PC.

It can be installed via software hacks but I wouldnt recommend a new mac user going that route, its just not "the mac experience".

Here is a picture describing the differences between Mac and PC users

**ibanezjunkie** · October 29th, 2009, 12:14 PM

this is a thread full of mac people, so i guess i can ask...

would my dad's mcafee (Windows) work on this mac im on?

G4 Powermac, made in ireland. Tiger 10.4.11, 533MHz processor, etc.

**markb** · October 29th, 2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie

this is a thread full of mac people, so i guess i can ask...

would my dad's mcafee (Windows) work on this mac im on?

G4 Powermac, made in ireland. Tiger 10.4.11, 533MHz processor, etc.

Yes, if you've installed Windows via Boot Camp or Parallels Desktop, otherwise no. Why would you want McAfee security software on a Mac?

**ibanezjunkie** · October 29th, 2009, 03:32 PM

mainly because its all i can get for free at the moment.

my laptop has norton and it sucks. my friend has kasperskey and i just generally dont like the idea of such cheap antivirus.

**markb** · October 29th, 2009, 03:57 PM

I use this, it's free.

http://www.clamxav.com/

**ibanezjunkie** · October 29th, 2009, 04:14 PM

is that clamxav thing any good? its not like a generic antivirus or firewall, its just a scanner.

i guess that means it wont detect viruses or malware until i tell it to look for it?

**ted s** · October 29th, 2009, 04:16 PM

It's a Mac, e don't need no stinking anti-virus..

**ibanezjunkie** · October 29th, 2009, 04:18 PM

thats what i thought too, but then someone told me that anything that is connected to a WLAN or ethernet cable can be infected with viruses and stuff. i thought it would be best to protect my computers.

**ted s** · October 29th, 2009, 05:35 PM

Doesn't hurt to be proactive 'Nez, can't fault you there.

**ibanezjunkie** · November 2nd, 2009, 04:35 PM

the tv ads on the apple site perfectly sum up the differences that superswede outlined.

id swear that the 'mac' guy is the guy from DieHard 4.0.

**markb** · November 2nd, 2009, 04:55 PM

That post of Swede's is a bit out of date though. Floppy disks? Iomega Zip drive? Serial cable? A Newton?

tunghaichuan*** · November 2nd, 2009, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie

the tv ads on the apple site perfectly sum up the differences that superswede outlined.

id swear that the 'mac' guy is the guy from DieHard 4.0.

Good eye. Yup, Justin Long was in Live Free or Die Hard.

deeaa* · November 2nd, 2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie

the tv ads on the apple site perfectly sum up the differences that superswede outlined.

id swear that the 'mac' guy is the guy from DieHard 4.0.

Can't watch the TV ads because 'Quicktime required' and I will not install any Apple software on my machine if there is any way to avoid it. If there are any programs that cause more problems than Apple's I sure wouldn't want to even hear about them.

deeaa* · November 3rd, 2009, 04:05 AM

BTW these guys sell a platform (and complete machines) that allow you to use a Mac OS among others on your machine:

http://www.psystar.com/

That way you can save half your dough and not be handicapped by Apple's limitations.

My friends boots between Linux, Snow Leopard and Win7 and Win Xp on his machine just for the hell of it. So far I've been only using Linux and Xp on my main machine, but today I'm also installing win 7 along with them.

I'll install win7 also on the NC10 minimachine. Maybe I should try the Snow Leopard as well...although my hatred for macs is pretty deep rooted, I once had to use one for a year at work.

**M29** · November 3rd, 2009, 05:21 AM

Thanks all

deeaa* · November 3rd, 2009, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by SuperSwede

Except for some chips that the PC doesnt have and thus prevents Mac OS from being installed on a standard PC.

Actually from what I've been reading it's vice versa, the Apple OS might not have the drivers for all PC components. Plus Apple is doing its best to include software blocks that try to detect whether the hardware is made by Apple before it allows it to run...but it's met with a lot of opposition on that front. Apple makes its money by selling hardware, not their OS. And the last thing they want is users to understand that the hardware is just the same as on PC and no better quality either; only restricted every which way so Apple could sell hugely overpriced hardware with it. Very hard to get to editing system files etc. and seeing what's actually happening on a mac...they don't want you to be able to do it.

I like Apple's stuff well enough for style etc, just not the OS and some of the hardware such as the horrid mice and them glossy monitors are just terrible. And then the rest is overpriced.

**Kazz** · November 3rd, 2009, 05:39 AM

Ibanez.....Mcafee is worse than having no a/v at all. If you want to use a free a/v look and see if avg has a mac version.

**SuperSwede** · November 3rd, 2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by markb

That post of Swede's is a bit out of date though. Floppy disks? Iomega Zip drive? Serial cable? A Newton?

Well..ehrm.. it wasnt meant to be serious..

**markb** · November 3rd, 2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by SuperSwede

Well..ehrm.. it wasnt meant to be serious..

I've added a smiley. Happy now?

Deeaa, you're just not getting the point of the slogan "it just works", are you?

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