Wow. I figured you were making this up, but I guess not. That's crazy -- I tend to side with the environmentalists on this one.
Guess I should give a tip of the hat to companies like Martin for exploring new wood ideas like HPL in their X series...
I just saw on Premier Guitar's Facebook page that a Gibson plant has been raided. Here's the scoop:
And here's a link to the Nashville Post's article on the raid.According to the Nashville Post, the raid was conducted by a combination of federal agents and local police who are investigating the company for violating the Lacey Act, an environment law that makes it illegal to import endangered species of rosewood from Madagascar. As of this posting, it is not clear which Gibson manufacturing facility was the target of the raid—either Gibson USA or Gibson Custom. Both facilities are approximately one mile from each other in a warehouse district just south of downtown Nashville.
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Wow. I figured you were making this up, but I guess not. That's crazy -- I tend to side with the environmentalists on this one.
Guess I should give a tip of the hat to companies like Martin for exploring new wood ideas like HPL in their X series...
Guitars: Gibson LP Studio, MIA Fender Precision, Carvin C350Originally Posted by Spudman
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Pedals: Pod HD500X, Diamond Compressor, Tech 21 VT Bass, Sonic Research Turbo Tuner
I contacted the federal agents and asked them to look for my pedalboard photo too, while they're at it.
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Wow. If Gibson ends up being guilty, I wonder what that's going to do to them, their prices, etc.
I wish I had a recent Gibby with a rosewood board, however. I'd say those will be collector's item. The "Endangered Fretboard" series.
-Kodiak
Guitars:
Washburn Idol 64 DL w/GFS Dream 180 pups
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Stagg G300 SG w/GFS Power Rails
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I find very interesting but it appears from the article that Gibson is already covering their butt by saying they purchase only from licensed buyers, SO WHO WILL GET THE AXE? Nobody in my opinion, I think it will all disappear if that is all the feds have to worry about.
Question about this: where do most manufacturers get their rosewood? I figure it's probably the most common fretboard material around, so wouldn't this be a problem for most factories?
Is there something in particular about Gibson (possibly the sheer number of guitars made there?) that would explain why they were targeted?
Guitars: Gibson LP Studio, MIA Fender Precision, Carvin C350Originally Posted by Spudman
Amps: Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Avatar B212 / Genzler 12-3, Acoustic B20
Pedals: Pod HD500X, Diamond Compressor, Tech 21 VT Bass, Sonic Research Turbo Tuner
Kinda sad that we have to worry about what their law-breaking will do to the prices they charge us....Originally Posted by Kodiak3D
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They would take their mahogany too if you let them......
I have no idea if there's guilt or not. All we know at this point is that the Feds had enough evidence to get a warrant for a raid.
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Absolutely correct. And that is based typically on the govt. agents' reports or evidence only. Unfortunately for any defendant, usually the press gets ahold of the state's version first, often via the affidavits filed in order to get a warrant, and that is what is published in the paper. One must remember, it is only one side of the story, and since it is the one to hit the paper first, it is often the one that gets remembered by most people.Originally Posted by marnold
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There's a headline, a byline, but it says the full article is only available to subscribers. Or you can pay $7.50 for it. Not happenin' for me.Originally Posted by marnold
Oddly, or not, they use stock photos of a pair of the Epiphone Lennon Casino models for the presentation of the article. Sharp cookies in that Nashville Post newsroom...
Really? I can see the whole article, and I have no intention of ever being a subscriber.Originally Posted by wingsdad
Guitars: Gibson LP Studio, MIA Fender Precision, Carvin C350Originally Posted by Spudman
Amps: Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Avatar B212 / Genzler 12-3, Acoustic B20
Pedals: Pod HD500X, Diamond Compressor, Tech 21 VT Bass, Sonic Research Turbo Tuner
Musta been my 'puter, or IE, or whatever, then...or they knew I work for a competing news media company. I just went back on that link, and right you are, Eric....it's there.Originally Posted by Eric
Beats the #&@! outta me....
Now that I got to read it, my heart bleeds for them poor l'il Madagascarian (?) Lemurs, tho....
EDIT,to add this:
After 25 years in the newspaper & media game, I've come to recognize that when a news medium uses that gambit of 'blind sourcing' a story, it's veracity is highly supect. It more often than not indicates there was only one 'source', may have even been hearsay, and they rushed it to press (or air) without getting a corroborating source. I've seen reporters and editors get fired for that kind of chicanery. It's not journalism, it's pulp.Originally Posted by said articel
I doubt we'll see any criminal charges filed. But I'll bet my grandmother's underwear we'll see some hefty fines levied against someone(s).
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Even the ones you have on now?Originally Posted by luvmyshiner
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"I wish Imagine Dragons would be stuck in an Arcade Fire for an entire Vampire Weekend."--Brian Posehn
Don't they haven't more important issues than this? While they are there they might as well make sure they have those great low-flush toilets installed. And no one better be eating meat in the company kitchen.. causes global warming, you know.
It's the type of rosewood that is a concern. Not all species of rosewood are on the endangered species list: Brazillian rosewood is, Indian rosewood is not.Originally Posted by Eric
The quote above mentioned a species of rosewood from Madagascar.
Here a link I just googled up:
http://www.alliedlutherie.com/rosewoods.htm
I pick a moon dog.
I wonder if we can look forward to LPs looking like this:
-Sean
Guitars: Lots.
Amphs: More than last year.
Pedals: Many, although I go straight from guitar to amp more often lately.