Looper pedals?

[Tone2TheBone]

I was going to pm you Spud about a question I have but I figured to put it here so that other's may draw from your well spring of knowledge Master Spud.

EDITED: I apologize for bringing this up again after reading previous posts about it. RTFM eh! Anyway I will still leave my post up because I would like to address the bass guitar issue while using the looper......

Question: Well lemme say it this way. Using a loop pedal...do you run the loop pedal in line with your guitar as you would a regular effects pedal...into the same amp? If this is the case then how would the drum loops come out on the same amp if you happen to have a looper that incorporates drum loops? I guess my question is, wouldn't you have to run the amp clean?

With this in mind...what about looping bass guitar parts using the same clean guitar amp? Would that be too much for one amp to handle? What about recording guitar parts that are overdriven? I suppose you'd have to use an OD pedal for those parts right? All run through the same amp? Ideally I guess it would be better to run everything through a PA? Have I asked more than one question? haha

Ok your turn.

[Spudman***]

Jeepers. Just go get one. Ha ha.

Yes you play all that through your amp. Now AMP can be whatever amplifies your sound so it's up to you. I've seen acoustic players using small PA heads and speakers to do it, and I've also seen videos of electric players doing what I do and that is playing it all through my guitar amp.

You may notice on the video links in this thread that nobody is playing loudly. No reason to. There is plenty of sound once you get a bunch of loops going. Check out the Boss web site for demos videos. Also, when players use a looper in a band situation, ala Trey Anastasio, there are no bass or drums being looped.

Since it seems like you still have questions I suggest that you go to a music store, get a guitar, a bass, a Loop Station, and a distortion box, set them beside you and go to work. See what you think. It's not that complicated.

Looping all these instruments is a great lesson in mixing. You have to play the instrument being looped at the level that you want it in the mix. There is no playing then grabbing a fader to change that instrument level. This is a really helpful lesson on learning to play in a band as well. You have to learn to blend.

[Tone2TheBone]

Jeepers. Just go get one. Ha ha.

I will in November! GC says they're coming out then. I like buying locally. Meanwhile I picked up a Hot Head Distortion pedal to try out...figured it would give me more leeway than the Bad Monkey in the loop scenario in case I want more edge.

I understand about levels. Good point you made. I'm really interested in experimenting with the bass using the pedal and then layering some guitars over that with some drum in the background. We'll see. Hey why don't you do us a sample Spud so we can hear for ourselves. I'd like to see one of us around here do one.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Also, when players use a looper in a band situation, ala Trey Anastasio, there are no bass or drums being looped.

I never expected Spudz to mention Trey!

[Spudman***]

I never expected Spudz to mention Trey!

Sorry. It won't happen again. NOT. The guy is an amazingly good guitarist. Too bad his songwriting skill didn't survive past Phish.

[tot_Ou_tard]

Sorry. It won't happen again. NOT. The guy is an amazingly good guitarist.

I am in complete agreement!

[Spudman***]

There are plenty of Phish bootleg recordings around the web and their official recordings too usually have Trey doing some looping. He is a good artist to check out to see how to use a looper live. I believe he uses a Boomerang looper.