Yeah Blazes, I listened to that a while back.
....I can't remember which I preferred.
How about you?
Interesting vid here ..
Comparaison of Celestion Vintage 30, G12-H30, K100, M70, Seventy 80, Gold Tone, Greenback, G12T-75, Jensen Alnico 12,
JBL M222, EVM12L, Tone Tubby 40/40, Tone Tubby San Rafael 25, Eminence Tonker and Eminence Swamp Thang..
Make your choice...
My SoundClick -- Rubber Band -- Jazz Trio
--Quebec made 1978 Norman B-30 , Martin Dc 15E , Suzuki Archtop
-- Fender Start Reissue 57 , Ibanez AR 300 , Peavy Falcon ,Xaviere Xv600,
-- Fender Telecaster , Charvel_Jackson , Framus Lapsteel
--Rc boost,Ts9 ,Coolcat-ToD,GGG Fuzz Face, Boss Ce2 , Rc Booster ,Tone driver , Boss dd2 , Boss Gt8 (effects _effects loop)
--Amp:Traynor Ycv40 wr -- Blackstar HT5-- Car :Toyota Tercel 1999..
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Yeah Blazes, I listened to that a while back.
....I can't remember which I preferred.
How about you?
I pick a moon dog.
I had seen it too. Very helpful. I hope he didn't have that mic fall out of that holder during the tests...
Thanks Blaze It is a good vid to take a listen to every now and then.
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Thanks Blaze. That was a great comparison
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Fender P Bass 70s
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Vintage 30 Stack
Vintage 30 -- Greenback -- G12T-75Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
My SoundClick -- Rubber Band -- Jazz Trio
--Quebec made 1978 Norman B-30 , Martin Dc 15E , Suzuki Archtop
-- Fender Start Reissue 57 , Ibanez AR 300 , Peavy Falcon ,Xaviere Xv600,
-- Fender Telecaster , Charvel_Jackson , Framus Lapsteel
--Rc boost,Ts9 ,Coolcat-ToD,GGG Fuzz Face, Boss Ce2 , Rc Booster ,Tone driver , Boss dd2 , Boss Gt8 (effects _effects loop)
--Amp:Traynor Ycv40 wr -- Blackstar HT5-- Car :Toyota Tercel 1999..
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Once the video is fully loaded, it is interesting to randomly click in the red bar at the bottom and hear the differences right away.
I wish they would have demoed my fav the Blue.
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That was really helpful. Thanks.
There are so many speakers on the market and it makes it hard to figure out what to choose. That demo really helps to hear the subtle and not so subtle differences. There are still more that I'd like to hear because I've got a couple of speakers that eventually I'd like to replace. That demo narrowed it down a little bit.
"No Tele For you." - The Tele Nazi
Ha! Tele-ish now inbound.
I am a weber speaker believer, I run 1 silver bell and 1 blue dog in my 2x12 new vintage, and 2 california 12's i my twin ( same as a jbl d120f ) Ted(RIP) was a awsome sound engineer, and thankfully he taught TA his son all of his knowledge.
I've always preferred the warmth and punchiness of V30...the frequencies are pleasing to my ears. Top is there without the shrill.
This is what I had in my Rivera combo.
My preference has not changed after listening to the demo (which is really a nice speaker shootout).
Great find on the shootout Blaze!
I thought the EV sounded pretty good, Have some
older EV7300 amps in a P.A. Stable gear!
Thanks Blaze!
V30 gets my vote...
How do you like the Silver Bell?Originally Posted by majwild1
I pick a moon dog.
Man, the V30 and the Greenback both sound awfully good....
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I had no idea the differences could be that great just from a speaker change! I really really love the Vintage 30!
Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Ultra; pretty red Squier Acoustic;
Amps: Vox VT30;
Pedals: Dunlop Fuzz Face; Dunlop Crybaby Wah
My kids have: Squier Affinity Stratocaster MII; Fender G-DEC; Squire Acoustic; Jay Turser Strat-copy, Roland Cube amp
"I am a sworn enemy of the saccharine, and a believer in grace over karma." Bono 2001
I really like that Eminence Swamp Thang, too--big, open sound.
That Tone Tubby San Rafael is apparently much less efficient than most of the others--very noticeable volume decrease, and I think it greatly influences the perception of the speaker's tone, not in a good way. I've read good things about this speaker, but you wouldn't know it from this video clip.....
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My favorite speaker combo (this month ) is the Celestion G12H30 and the Vintage 30 together in a 2X12 cab (I actually have a G12H30 and a WGS Veteran 30).
Tight bottom; warm, punchy mids; smooth highs. Funny, but to me the highs with the Vintage 30 alone sound a little harsh or shrill. I don't hear that with the WGS Veteran 30, and in combination with the Celestion G12H30 it's really balanced.
That is a great video demo. Only place I've ever heard each speaker in rapid succession with the exact same riff played over and over. Good stuff!
Ah, nothing relieves the discomfort of GAS pains like the sound of the UPS truck rumbling down your street. It's like the musician's Beano.
AAMOF, I've been thinking about buying a mixed pair of speakers from WGS to install in the 2x12 Drive cab I bought a couple of years ago. There are a pair of lower end Eminence Legends in it now that are a bit dull & nondescript. I've been leaning toward a Veteran 30 & a Green Beret, their Greenback clone.Originally Posted by Bloozcat
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DVM, I have a WGS Green Beret in my 1 x 12" cab.
Listening to those clips, I definitely think I like the Vintage 3 and the Swamp Thing better. I dunno how much about my sound is my cab though, it is so boomy...it's a VHT cab I got on CL. It's a closed back, front loaded cab...I'm resisting the temptation to cut out the back to lessen the "boom".
Green Beret looks interesting as well, i ve purchased an Eminence (Greenback Legend)GB128 for a small cabinet I ve recycled to fit with my Blackstar Ht 5 head.. I like it a lot .Speaker sensivity is 101.4 which is pretty good for a $70.00 speaker.. Always Question of taste obviously..Originally Posted by duhvoodooman
My SoundClick -- Rubber Band -- Jazz Trio
--Quebec made 1978 Norman B-30 , Martin Dc 15E , Suzuki Archtop
-- Fender Start Reissue 57 , Ibanez AR 300 , Peavy Falcon ,Xaviere Xv600,
-- Fender Telecaster , Charvel_Jackson , Framus Lapsteel
--Rc boost,Ts9 ,Coolcat-ToD,GGG Fuzz Face, Boss Ce2 , Rc Booster ,Tone driver , Boss dd2 , Boss Gt8 (effects _effects loop)
--Amp:Traynor Ycv40 wr -- Blackstar HT5-- Car :Toyota Tercel 1999..
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That combo ought to work, especially with the WGS speakers.Originally Posted by duhvoodooman
A lower end combo that I've played through and liked is the Eminence Legend 125 (older 50 watt version) and the Eminence GB12. Sorta like a Greenback/C12N Jensen combo. Of course, it depends on the amp too.
Last edited by Bloozcat; February 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 AM.
Ah, nothing relieves the discomfort of GAS pains like the sound of the UPS truck rumbling down your street. It's like the musician's Beano.