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    Exiting the media game?

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    Wow! He got pretty choked up.

    I dig John and I don't really care what he said. He's right though. It's like someone is always gunning for you when you get to the level he is at and I wish that stupid sort of persecution would just quit. Who really cares what he said? In 50 years nobody is going to remember and in 200 it will just be a joke. It's so petty what people latch on to in order to make themselves feel better. I see plenty of it from people who aren't successful always trying to find fault in those that are. It's like they want those successful people to fail so that they can feel better about themselves. I'm just tired of it all.

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    HERE IS WHAT HE SAID!

    Playboy: Do black women throw themselves at you?

    John Mayer : I don’t think I open myself to it. My dick is sort of like a white supremacist. I’ve got a Benetton heart and a f—kin’ David Duke c–k. I’m going to start dating separately from my dick.

    He tried to be slick and when he realized he F'ED up he then tried to clean it up.

    John Mayer:
    Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 'hood pass?' " he told Playboy. "

    And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a 'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.' "


    Once again tryng to be slick AKA HIP!
    He's not new to the media he knows how the the game gets played and what he can say and can not say and get away with it, stupid is as stupid does sometimes.

    He can play his Behind off but his mouth needs to think as quick as his fingers not as quick as his lack of common sense.

    When will folks learn to just shut up and play. ROTFLMAO @ his stupidity.
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    I do hope he means what he said in his apology. As a musician I hold him in very high regard, some of his music from the JM3 and Continumn records re-ignited my love for the electric guitar and as a result has had a massive influence on my own playing style.

    But I remember posting here a year or two ago that he needs to just shut up and play music. Nothing teaches you in life like your own mistakes so hopefully he means what he said and will from now on just make great music.
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    I'd guess he didn't mean any harm, and was just talking "clever" (crap) in the interview, which obviously was a mistake. He has apologized sincerely for it, which should be enough. His recent interview in Guitar World exposed how deep he can be, which says much more than a screw up in Playboy.

    Edit: After reading so many comments about what Mayer has said in the past caught me a little off guard. I didn't know about his history of being a jerk! I guess I don't keep up with that kind of stuff. It sounds like he needs to grow up.

    I'd give him the simple advice from the Frank Zappa album title, "Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar".
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    Aside from his talent as a musician, I find him to be a pretty classless individual.

    The things he said about Jessica Simpson are typical of this. Cruel, insensitive and just plain hurtful comments about someone he briefly dated say a lot more about John than they do about the woman...and it's not just Jessica Simpson he's made disparaging remarks about. I don't know why any decent woman would date him given his lack of self control. He acts like a 14-year old on the playground...only his playground is the world stage.

    I'll bet his mother is really proud every time she reads another of his interviews.
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    WOW!!! Assuming that Maxifunk's quotes above are correct.......it's just amazing to believe that he's that brain-dead to make the statements (the orig, not the apology) that he did.

    Again, proving that like some actors/actresses, once they get out of their craft/medium, they are dumber than cow-chips.

    Common-sense tells you how far you can go and I guess he doesn't have a "governor switch" on his mouth.

    Just sing and play your damn guitar. Don't talk.
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    Why the double standard? How come it's okay for Lenny Bruce, Redd Foxx, Richard Prior, Robin Williams, Howard Stern and so in to talk like this but it's not for John? I think people just need to lighten up all the way around. I actually thought he was funny. So what if he doesn't sleep with black women. That's his right and I feel it's his right to say it anyway he wants. I thought the description was pretty vivid. I got it. He has a very creative and artistic mind so he thinks in pictures and that's how he describes his world.

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    Regardless of what one thinks about the interview and what his comments were supposed to mean, the guy remains a putz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman
    Why the double standard? How come it's okay for Lenny Bruce, Redd Foxx, Richard Prior, Robin Williams, Howard Stern and so in to talk like this but it's not for John? I think people just need to lighten up all the way around. I actually thought he was funny. So what if he doesn't sleep with black women. That's his right and I feel it's his right to say it anyway he wants. I thought the description was pretty vivid. I got it. He has a very creative and artistic mind so he thinks in pictures and that's how he describes his world.

    Spud,

    The world could care less if he dates Women of African Decent or if he uses the N word in a off the cuff way as a attempt to be colorful.

    But what I do care about is someone who has been schooled by A&R departments of his record labels, his personal public relations folks and alike and still uses his interviews to use language that could get him in a fire storm of negative publicity in the gaze of all publicity is good publicity.

    It's just plain stupid and shows such a lack of maturity and common sense it is pathetic. Also, he is 30 not 12 he's more than old enough to know how to conduct himself.

    As for why do comedians get a pass it is because you have certain level knowledge going into their shows they are and will say somethings that would never be said in any other setting.

    I have been around hundreds if not thousands of interviews over the years as a bodyguard to the stars of music, movies, and athletics and have heard the stupid comments in person and read the miss quotes form interviews as well.

    I am not giving the media a pass for its useless way it spreads its rhetoric but I will not also give a pass to a star who knows better but yet stills spews stupid comments on a regular basis either.

    I once heard this back stage at a toys for tots drive in LA around 1992 or 19993 Words to live by Stevie Wonder talking to Ice Cube

    "know your audience and the forum you are in and speak respectfully, thoughtfully, cautiously, and honestly and be simple and clear and you'll do fine with the media."

    That is what he said to Ice Cube after asking Stevie how he handles the media so well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman
    Why the double standard? How come it's okay for Lenny Bruce, Redd Foxx, Richard Prior, Robin Williams, Howard Stern and so in to talk like this but it's not for John? I think people just need to lighten up all the way around. I actually thought he was funny. So what if he doesn't sleep with black women. That's his right and I feel it's his right to say it anyway he wants. I thought the description was pretty vivid. I got it. He has a very creative and artistic mind so he thinks in pictures and that's how he describes his world.

    I don't see a double standard at all. Other than Howard Stern, the others are all comedians. Comedy is almost always funny at the expense of someone else. They specialize in making fun of everyone and everything, regardless of who's toes they may step on. And Lenny Bruce was the guy who exposed the ridiculousness of the labels people use everyday to demean others. Howard Stern is simply a calculating opportunist. He's cultivated a crass, uncouth, rabble rousing image that he exploits just for ratings. A great role model, is he. Even he must privately laugh that people actually listen to him.

    Creative? A speech class with John would be a really exhilarating adventure in oratory excellence. Uh, John, can you express yourself without the denegrating vituperation please?

    John's a guitar player. It's what he does best and he should stick to it. That's his creative expression. His attemps at being cute and clever fall flat...as his career may likely do if he continues this way. Listening to John in an interview is like watching a blind man wandering around in a mine field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman
    Why the double standard? How come it's okay for Lenny Bruce, Redd Foxx, Richard Prior, Robin Williams, Howard Stern and so in to talk like this but it's not for John?
    Probably because those guys are seen as comedians so what they say will be seen in that light. Those guys certainly took plenty of flak in their lives over what they've said, no matter how firmly their tongues were planted in their cheeks. Don Imus got knocked off the air for comments far more innocuous than Mayer's. It is more than a bit naive to assume that you can say anything without people getting ticked about it, much less things like that. Whether that's right or wrong is largely immaterial. It simply is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman
    I think people just need to lighten up all the way around. I actually thought he was funny. So what if he doesn't sleep with black women. That's his right and I feel it's his right to say it anyway he wants. I thought the description was pretty vivid. I got it. He has a very creative and artistic mind so he thinks in pictures and that's how he describes his world.
    I agree with you. Mayer has a right to say whatever he wants to say. You either believe in free speech or you don't. Just watch this hysterical Chris Rock video and ask yourself why people can laugh at it but not at an off the cuff remark by Mayer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman
    Why the double standard? How come it's okay for Lenny Bruce, Redd Foxx, Richard Prior, Robin Williams, Howard Stern and so in to talk like this but it's not for John? I think people just need to lighten up all the way around. I actually thought he was funny. So what if he doesn't sleep with black women. That's his right and I feel it's his right to say it anyway he wants. I thought the description was pretty vivid. I got it. He has a very creative and artistic mind so he thinks in pictures and that's how he describes his world.

    I agree - not losing any sleep over his comments. There are a hell of a lot of more important things in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloozcat
    Aside from his talent as a musician, I find him to be a pretty classless individual.

    The things he said about Jessica Simpson are typical of this. Cruel, insensitive and just plain hurtful comments about someone he briefly dated say a lot more about John than they do about the woman...and it's not just Jessica Simpson he's made disparaging remarks about. I don't know why any decent woman would date him given his lack of self control. He acts like a 14-year old on the playground...only his playground is the world stage.

    I'll bet his mother is really proud every time she reads another of his interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloozcat
    The things he said about Jessica Simpson are typical of this. Cruel, insensitive and just plain hurtful comments about someone he briefly dated say a lot more about John than they do about the woman
    Maybe I read his comments wrong, but it sounded like he was saying she's a sexual dynamo. That's hardly disparaging.

    That said, I've always thought he was a douchebag although the skits he did on the Chapelle Show were really funny..

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    I believe it was "Sexual Napalm" (from watching TMZ)

    I saw a TMZ guy ask Jessica about this and she laughed her butt off when they brought it up. I'd take that comment as a compliment if someone said that about me!

    Anyway, I could care less what John Mayer says, I just chimed in for my previous "grass houses" joke

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    Everyone says something stupid now and then. Sometimes they wish they could take it back, sometimes it comes out funny.
    And some people are really good at doing it repeatedly.
    If they don't learn from it or use discretion, they become known as a$$holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodore 64
    Maybe I read his comments wrong, but it sounded like he was saying she's a sexual dynamo. That's hardly disparaging.
    Maybe it's a generational thing (I certainly hope not), but I was raised to be a gentleman. And gentlemen don't speak of such private intimacies as John Mayer does. Oh, I've certainly had acquaintances who have, and I've been in enough locker rooms to have heard it many times before, but it's still inexcusable. Just imagine if it was your daughter that Mayer was speaking about. Or maybe your sister or a good friend.

    As to the free speech right, there has to be self regulation in the exercise of this right. In the classic example, is it OK to scream FIRE!, FIRE! in a crowded theater and then disavow any responsibility for those who are then trampled to death because of your actions?
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