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    My sister-in-law is going to start taking guitar lessons real soon.
    She asked me what would be a good 1st acoustic guitar.
    I have no knowledge what so ever in that world at all so I was wondering if you guys could give me some advice on where to start with her search.

    I figured a small body style guitar would be best and not a super flat neck but after that I am dead in the water. I know the big Brand names like most folks Martin & Taylor. But I have no idea if their low ends guitars are as good as some other brands which thrive in that area. I also told her to expect to spend from $300.00 to $1000.00 USD which she has no problem with. Although honestly I think the 300-600 range would be more than enough.

    So once again thanks in advance for your input, time and expertise.
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    I'd look at the Yamaha FS720S. Small body, and better quality than it's under $300 price tag might indicate. It comes in 5 colors (Natural, Black, Brown Sunburst, Dusk Sun Red, and Ocean Blue Burst), and sounds really solid. I liked how the neck felt as well.

    I played one a few days ago, and it fit my needs for a future acoustic. I've been scrounging around pawn shops lately, but the only good find was a Guild for $700, which is out of my price range.

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    I got a cheap SX acoustic from Rondo, and it did me just fine. I think I payed around $150 for it.
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    Blueridge is making some very nice guitars for +/- $500. Maybe more than you want to spend for a first, and you might be able to find them for less, but they are pretty nice by all reports. Here is a 000 size, rosewood/spruce that looks pretty darn nice.

    http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/det...ID=2&BrandID=5

    And here it is for $400:

    http://www.instrumentalley.com/Produ...BR-63&click=35

    EDIT: Some reviews here.

    http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/Fo...ML/016726.html
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    Washburn D10
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    I really like the Ibanez acoustic/electrics.. especially since they started coming with on-board tuners... $300-$400 range.
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    Washburn EA20 is a good small body acoustic.....Shiner has one, Keel sold one recently....and Strum had one that went to Shiner I think :-)

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    Frank uses a Washburn.. and Yamaha. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIFUNK
    ...I think the 300-600 range would be more than enough.

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    Absolutely.

    Lots of options by Yamaha, Ibanez, Washburn (or Oscar Schmidt), Epiphone, Ovation Celebrity series...

    What size are her hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingsdad
    Absolutely.

    Lots of options by Yamaha, Ibanez, Washburn (or Oscar Schmidt), Epiphone, Ovation Celebrity series...

    What size are her hands?
    small but slender fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t_ross33
    Washburn D10

    +1
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    I bought a seagull S6 slim for around 350$ http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...ght?sku=512360

    I got it about fifty bucks cheaper at the local music store.

    But this is probably my favorite acoustic Ive played. it plays and sounds great.

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    Have a look at Crafters. The better Corts are good (Parkwood?). Walden make some nice OM styles. Blueridge make cool prewar Martin copies. For really cheap, the Johnson Carolina guitars (might be Recording King brand in the US) are good too, a decent OM28 copy for NZ$700? Oh, yes! For that pre-war blues vibe there's the Epiphone EL-00. I'd take any of these guitars over the "formica" Martins. Go for at least a solid top.

    Any low(ish) end acoustic is easily cheered up by the addition of a properly cut bone (or Tusq) saddle (and nut, but do the saddle first). A small upgrade cost which easily pays for itself in performance improvement. I wouldn't get hung up on electronics either, a good small Korg tuner will cost less than the premium for a preamp with internal tuner and it'll work better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIFUNK
    small but slender fingers.
    I suggest considering an Ovation Celebrity. Slim, narrow neck, with a hint of 'soft V' shape, virtually like playing an electric rather than most acoutics. Easy to maintain. Super-Shallow bowl (thinnest of 3 depth options) may br most comfortable to handle. $300-$500 street, depending on model, bling level and whether Chinese or Korean. Hardcase, if needed, adds about $100. A decent thickly padded gigbag for $50 or less might be enough to haul to lessons.

    That, or a 3/4 scale. Oscar Schmidt by Wahsburn makes a nice one for under $200 stree.

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    Excellent suggestions above, let me add another:

    Regardless of brand, for a learner/first you need easy action and a guitar that'll stay in tune. She won't be concerned about great tone until way later.
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    Thanks, guys at least now I have some info to start her search.

    Although I do have to admit I was surprised that Washburn where so well liked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIFUNK
    Thanks, guys at least now I have some info to start her search.

    Although I do have to admit I was surprised that Washburn where so well liked.
    Lots of guys came over from the Washburn forum, so there is some history there. If you look at the Washburns, remember the D10 is a dreadnought, so from what you were saying, you will want to look at smaller models.

    P.S. Here is a vid of a young woman playing her new Blueridge BR-63, a 000 size.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69h0VQdZFeY
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    SVL,

    000 size is made by most manufactures?
    Maxi...................

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    I pledge allegiance to the funk, the whole funk, and nothing but the funk, so help me James, Sly and George, Amen!!

    Guitars: 2010 American Special HSS Strat, 2010 CIC Squire CV ThinLine Tele, & 2006 MIM FSR Strat.

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    I believe so.
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    Amphs: Peavey Classic 30, '61 Fender Concert
    Effects and such: Boss: DS-1, CE-5, NS-2 and RC20XL looper, Digitech Bad Monkey, Korg AX1G Multi-effects, Berhinger: TU100 tuner, PB100 Clean Boost, Line 6 Toneport UX2, Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi, DuhVoodooMan's Rabid Rodent Rat Clone, Zonkin Yellow Screamer Mk. II, MXR Carbon Copy Delay


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