Yeah, somebody will always coat or gold-plate or magnetize strings if they can convince Joe Public it's worth more. Some of the coated ones might last longer, I think the other stuff's just shamwow! salesmamship.
I was just reading a bit about violin strings.
There seem to be some exotic, synthetic-core ones out there.
Anything like that on guitars?
Acoustics only, I assume, as we need metal to "trigger" pickups...
Less golf, more saxophone
Yeah, somebody will always coat or gold-plate or magnetize strings if they can convince Joe Public it's worth more. Some of the coated ones might last longer, I think the other stuff's just shamwow! salesmamship.
Guitars
Wilburn Versatare, '52 FrankenTele(Fender licensed parts), Fender USA Roadhouse Strat, Fender USA Standard B-bender Telecaster, Agile AL 3000 w/ WCR pickups, Ibanez MIJ V300 Acoustic, Squier Precision Bass,
Amps
Ceriatone Overtone Special, Musicman 212 Sixty-Five, Fender Blues Jr., Peavey Classic 30, Fender Super Reverb, Traynor YCV-40 WR Anniversary w/ matching 1x12 ext. cab, Epiphone SoCal 50w head w/ matching 4x12 cab (Lady Luck speakers), Avatar 2x12 semi-open back cab w/ Celestion speakers
Pedals
Digitech Bad Monkey, Digitech Jamman, DVM's ZYS, Goodrich volume pedal
I have been looking for the holy grail of strings for years, I break them all doesn't matter what brand, even the expensive ones, so I buy ernies or deans and use a product called stringtreat on them, instead of 1 or 2 gigs it makes my strings last for a month and they still sound and play great.
I played Dean Markley Blue Steels for years, and they sounded great. But, I switched to D'Addarios and like 'em. They have good tone, and I have never broken a string with them, and I'm hard on strings.
I've heard good things about the Elixirs, and will try them out. However, there is a lot of hype about strings out there. It seems that there is always someone trying to hype the latest process for lengthening string life and tone.
My way of looking at it is that if it works and sounds good, I'll use it.
Guitars:
Fender 2006 MIM Fender Stratocaster HSS in 3TS
Ibanez RG 570 with a bridge Invader
ESP M II Deluxe with a Tune-o-Matic bridge
Eleanor, the magical, mystical Road Worn wonder Tele
Blackstar HT Club 40
Kat.. Elixirs are great for acoustic guitar.. they do last longer and hold their tone better than non-coated strings.
However, for electric, keep in mind they are still just strings, and will break just as easily as any other brand (especially in high humidity areas), and at ~$16 a pack, that gets expensive.
Just my two cents... but that is also the reason I stopped using Elixirs on my electrics. I still have them on my acoustic.
Electrics: '07 Gibson Les Paul Classic Antique, Oscar Schmidt OE40N Hollowbody aka. "Fat Girl"
Acoustic: Ibanez AEL20E-TRS
Bass: Ibanez GIO GSR200
Amplification: Marshall TSL JCM 2000 head & 1960a cab, Fender Hotrod Deluxe Silverface, Ibanez Soundwave SWX65
Effects: Boss Chorus, Bad Monkey, BSIABII, Rabid Rodent, Crybaby GCB-95, Rocktron Talk Box
Apparently everyone in AC/DC is a gnome too. - Reverend Rawk
DOUBLETAP - 'Northern Maine's Premier Blues Band'.
Hmm, string over-tension due to humidity-related wood expansion..??Originally Posted by mainestratman
Less golf, more saxophone
I used the coated DR strings exclusively for three years. I didn't notice any real change in tone. They seemed to break just as quickly as regular strings too. I don't think that there is that much difference in strings.
Patrick
Corrosion (rust), more than anything.Originally Posted by poodlesrule
When I was in NC, I'd got through a set of strings every two weeks or so.. they'd rust out and break.
Back here in Maine, relative humidity is a lot lower (or not as high as much), so I can go a couple months before changing them out. Of course, it sounds like crap after that long, but I save a few bucks.
Ernie Ball Hybrids, in case you're wondering what I use. :-)
Electrics: '07 Gibson Les Paul Classic Antique, Oscar Schmidt OE40N Hollowbody aka. "Fat Girl"
Acoustic: Ibanez AEL20E-TRS
Bass: Ibanez GIO GSR200
Amplification: Marshall TSL JCM 2000 head & 1960a cab, Fender Hotrod Deluxe Silverface, Ibanez Soundwave SWX65
Effects: Boss Chorus, Bad Monkey, BSIABII, Rabid Rodent, Crybaby GCB-95, Rocktron Talk Box
Apparently everyone in AC/DC is a gnome too. - Reverend Rawk
DOUBLETAP - 'Northern Maine's Premier Blues Band'.
Living on the humid Gulf Coast (now with free ocean lubrication!), I should have all kinds of corrosion, but I don't. Maybe the mandatory air conditioner keeps things dry enough. I rarely break high E strings (.10), even the cheap $2.99/set WebStrings.
I do remember breaking strings on my old 12-string Takamine, but she was asking for it!
Guitar: Gibson SG Standard Natural Burst, Squier CV 50's Tele, Hell Guitars No. 2, Squier CV 50's Strat, Reverend Club King 290, Taylor 522e 12-Fret mahogany,
Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass Short Scale
Amp: Fender Super Champ X2 Head, Egnater Tweaker 15, Fender Mustang I, Acoustic B20 1x12 bass amp
Pedal: Budda Budwah wah, Wampler Ego Compressor, Electro-Harmonix Soul Food, Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive, Wampler Velvet Fuzz, Seven Sisters Eve Tremolo, TC Electronics Gravy Tri Chorus & Vibrato, Catalinbread Echorec, TC Electronic Alter Ego 2 Delay, Hardwire Supernatural Ambient Verb, MXR Carbon Copy, Catalinbread RAH, Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker, BYOC Mouse 2.0 Distortion, BYOC Boost/OD-2
Same problem here across the pond!Originally Posted by mainestratman
I think, for acoustics, that the most interesting strings I tried were the silk-core steel-wrapped 'folk' strings I put on a mate's dad's 12-string he lent me. He said it helped his arthritis a little bit, but not much, although I personally loved the feel of them (especially with my little stubbies on a 12-string acoustic!!!).
I think the thing you must keep in mind with violin strings and guitar strings are the way are they are played.
I'm no fiddler, but with the a violin, I could imagine the material used on the bow, the resin/rosin used, and the inner/outer layers of the strings all reacting in a certain way to their stimulus (i.e. how they're played), which is essentially friction, like when you rub your finger along the rim of a slightly wet wine glass and get that hum.
Guitar strings don't work that way, I'm afraid, so I'd imagine that these exotic materials would essentially go to waste, lest you dream of re-enacting those famous scenes from Spinal Tap
Just my tupence
I keep my strings clean with a dab of mineral oil on a cloth. 'Prevents corrosion and cleans the grime off of them. I also put a drop in my palm and rub the back of the neck and then go up and down across the strings before I play. Not too much, just a drop or two. I use Gibson nickel and Fender nickel, 'get for about $30-$35 for a box of 10 sets. I can't remember when I broke a string last, and I love to bend 'em
But I don't know squat about acoustic strings
I had them on all my Taylor guitars. Then put some on my solid body guitars, but replaced them with nickel strings. Thinking about replacing them on my acoustics as well. They seem to be a little dull to me. Any thoughts on this....anyone???
I've tried Elixirs only on an electric semi-hollow, but thought they were slightly dull as well. I liked the lack of finger noise, though. Of the coated electric strings, I like the Ernie Ball coated titanium (Ti re-enforced ends) the most, but they are too pricey for me even though they last longer than non-coated strings.Originally Posted by riverrick
It has been a while since I had an acoustic, so I'm no help there. I'd like to change that status before the end of the year, however.
Guitar: Gibson SG Standard Natural Burst, Squier CV 50's Tele, Hell Guitars No. 2, Squier CV 50's Strat, Reverend Club King 290, Taylor 522e 12-Fret mahogany,
Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass Short Scale
Amp: Fender Super Champ X2 Head, Egnater Tweaker 15, Fender Mustang I, Acoustic B20 1x12 bass amp
Pedal: Budda Budwah wah, Wampler Ego Compressor, Electro-Harmonix Soul Food, Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive, Wampler Velvet Fuzz, Seven Sisters Eve Tremolo, TC Electronics Gravy Tri Chorus & Vibrato, Catalinbread Echorec, TC Electronic Alter Ego 2 Delay, Hardwire Supernatural Ambient Verb, MXR Carbon Copy, Catalinbread RAH, Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker, BYOC Mouse 2.0 Distortion, BYOC Boost/OD-2
No one remember black nylon wound bass strings? The secret of that early 60s dull "plonk".
Electric: Fat strat > Korg PB > TS7 > DS1 > DD-20 > Cube 60 (Fender model)
Acoustic: Guitar > microphone > audience
Damn, and me using Webstrings.
Play your guitar daily!
Ditto the WebStrings. You just can't beat the price, and the quality is really good.Originally Posted by kerc
Guitar: Gibson SG Standard Natural Burst, Squier CV 50's Tele, Hell Guitars No. 2, Squier CV 50's Strat, Reverend Club King 290, Taylor 522e 12-Fret mahogany,
Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass Short Scale
Amp: Fender Super Champ X2 Head, Egnater Tweaker 15, Fender Mustang I, Acoustic B20 1x12 bass amp
Pedal: Budda Budwah wah, Wampler Ego Compressor, Electro-Harmonix Soul Food, Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive, Wampler Velvet Fuzz, Seven Sisters Eve Tremolo, TC Electronics Gravy Tri Chorus & Vibrato, Catalinbread Echorec, TC Electronic Alter Ego 2 Delay, Hardwire Supernatural Ambient Verb, MXR Carbon Copy, Catalinbread RAH, Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker, BYOC Mouse 2.0 Distortion, BYOC Boost/OD-2
I've tried several different brands and they all seem to be the same to me. I used to break strings all the time until I started using Dunlop Stubby, 3.0 mm
picks, which is a hard pick and really thick. These helped me to control my picking attack for better dynamics as well as keeping me from breaking strings. Now I never break strings anymore. BTW, I now use Curt Mangan strings (10.5). These strings can not be beat for quality, tone (tons of tone) and price (about 6 bucks a set) and they last for a long time before loosing their tone.
I can probably count the number of strings I've broken over the years on one hand. Course, I don't use the whammy bar - usually shut it down. I've been using D'addario XL's (46-10) and LOVE them. I did move to the 46-10's from the 42-9's a few months ago and really noticed a good improvement in my tone.
Ronnie
Guitars: Washburn WI64DL Idol, Yamaha Pacifica 112, Yamaha EG112C, Washburn House of Blues Electric, Washburn G30 Acoustic
Amps: Crate GX1200H Head, Crate 4x12 Cabinet, Crate GLX65 12" Combo, Johnson 15 watt, Fender Frontman 25R
Pedals: Cry Baby Wah, DOD FX20-B Stereo Phaser, Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive, Daneletro CM2 Metal II, Danelectro FAB Chorus, Danelectro FAB Flange
I've always used EB Slinky's with good results. They don't break easily and retain their sound for a couple of months, maybe a month if you gig and practise.
I have one guitar with Thomastik Infeld strings that blows anything away I've ever heard on a guitar. They last for eons too and are brass coated.
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Kurzweil SP88X, Yamaha MM8, Roland R-5
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