Who likes Grunge?

[Robert****]

Grunge - what did it do to guitar players all over the world? I think it took the shredder mentality away, to some degree at least. Perhaps some think that's a good thing.

The Grunge movement left me completely cold. Musically speaking, it was dead boring to me. So I just stayed away and worked on my good old blues licks and jazz progressions.

How about you?

[Tone2TheBone]

I liked it. I built my house to it. Staying up late nights working on our house in the 90s listening to ZRock radio. Grunge goes great with a circular saw in hand.

[duhvoodooman***]

Grunge goes great with a circular saw in hand.

No thanks. I'd be tempted to use it on my head after 2 or 3 songs....

[Rockermann]

I couldn't and still can't stand it. Simplistic guitar, no solos (like you alluded to) and whining/moaning vocals. And what was up with all the flannel?

The 90's blew when it came to rock music, especially grunge. It seemed like everyone was trying to do the same thing. One band sounded like the next (and that still applies to most of the rock music today). It sounds like the same producer is working for all the artists and there is no individuality left.

There's a few modern rock acts I like. Tool, Alice in Chains... but that's about it.

[Eric***]

I like it. 'Real' grunge (according to SVL) and the offshoots of it are what I cut my teeth on in the early to mid 90s. Anybody can say any style of music sounds the same, but that's mostly due to an unfamiliarity with it.

Probably not my favorite style of music any more, but definitely a time in music I value and something that put out a lot of stuff that I like. Still, I don't find myself playing it too much any more. Maybe I should revisit it...

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And what was up with all the flannel?

The flannel is, I believe, the fault of the business part of the music industry. If you watch the "Hype!" documentary, the people actually playing the music in Seattle were at best amused with the flannel thing. Those who wore it, wore it simply because it was cold, and it was extremely cheap. Same thing with the Converse shoes. It was never a deliberate attempt to create any kind of fashion out of it.

But by the time something gets out there and the right people smell money, it's pretty much out of the original idea man's hands (just look at some of the uses Nobel's dynamite has today).

While I like flannel myself because of it's feel and thermal properties, I feel it's got nothing to do with the grunge music itself, and picking on it to make a point about grunge's worth is not unlike saying that an ugly wart on somebody's face invalidates his position in an argument.

There's a few modern rock acts I like. Tool, Alice in Chains... but that's about it.

I'm pretty sure that neither Tool nor any critic/CD-label-man ever claimed their music to be grunge.

[Rockermann]

I'm pretty sure that neither Tool nor any critic/CD-label-man ever claimed their music to be grunge.

Nor did I. I went off the grunge topic a bit to include modern rock as a whole.

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Nor did I. I went off the grunge topic a bit to include modern rock as a whole.

I see. Excuse my part in the misunderstanding then.

[Rockermann]

While I like flannel myself because of it's feel and thermal properties, I feel it's got nothing to do with the grunge music itself, and picking on it to make a point about grunge's worth is not unlike saying that an ugly wart on somebody's face invalidates his position in an argument.

Sorry, if I insulted. No harm was intended.

There's nothing wrong with flannel. I own some myself. But I sure as hell wouldn't put it on knowing I'm going on stage.

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Sorry, if I insulted. No harm was intended.

There's nothing wrong with flannel. I own some myself. But I sure as hell wouldn't put it on knowing I'm going on stage.

I wasn't insulted at all, it's just that the thread seemed to go on a "flannel" tangent a tad more than it seemed relevant to the discussion, that's all. No harm done.

[Commodore 64***]

I like flannel shirts and patterns. I wear a lot of it. But I pretty much hate grunge. I freakin' HATE Nirvana, and their offspring. I don't really know what "grunge" really is but I pretty much despise: Nickelback, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, 3 Doors Down, Creed, Nirvana, Alice in Chains (Except for the Dirt album), Soundgarden (except for the song, Pretty Noose), Candle Box, Bush, Green Day. That's all garbage that makes me want to gouge my ears out. I don't know if it's all "grunge", but to me grunge started the decline of music into what it is today and includes all of those craptastic bands.

It's awful. I'd take the worst hair band over the best grunge band every day of the week and 2x on Sundays.

[Rockermann]

It's awful. I'd take the worst hair band over the best grunge band every day of the week and 2x on Sundays.

Amen. I think another reason I hated grunge is that it's such a downer. I never liked country music either as it was always about prison, divorce, loosing your job etc. Same type of stuff with grunge. Who want's to listen to all of that, over and over. Give me a band that writes about chicks, partying and having a great time. Now that I can listen to.

[duhvoodooman***]

I think another reason I hated grunge is that it's such a downer.

Yeah, I'd much rather listen to something positive and uplifting. Like Slipknot....

[marnold***]

Amen. I think another reason I hated grunge is that it's such a downer. I never liked country music either as it was always about prison, divorce, loosing your job etc. Same type of stuff with grunge. Who want's to listen to all of that, over and over. Give me a band that writes about chicks, partying and having a great time. Now that I can listen to.

You could make the same argument about the blues: "My woman done left me so I'm gonna jump in the river and drown." Of course I tend to prefer the "my baby came back" blues to the "my baby done left me" blues.

Reminds me of the comedian who talked about how there are no good blues Christmas tunes. So he wrote one called "My Woman Is Dead."

"Woke up Christmas mornin'
*duh DUH duh duh duh*
My woman was dead
*duh DUH duh duh duh*
Reindeer came down the chimney
*duh DUH duh duh duh*
And stepped on her head"

[sunvalleylaw]

I like flannel shirts and patterns. I wear a lot of it. But I pretty much hate grunge. I freakin' HATE Nirvana (Like, part of original grunge), and their offspring. I don't really know what "grunge" really is but I pretty much despise: Nickelback (dislike, post grunge posers), Foo Fighters (ok, but post grunge), Pearl Jam (Grunge, like some, don't like some), 3 Doors Down( don't even know those guys), Creed (way post grunge, too polished and posey), Nirvana [I](As said, I like)[/I], Alice in Chains (Lots of good stuff here, more polished than most grunge) (Except for the Dirt album), Soundgarden (Like, Cornell has great vocals) (except for the song, Pretty Noose), Candle Box (Big dislike, copiers), Bush (Same), Green Day (like, but different category, pop punk). That's all garbage that makes me want to gouge my ears out. I don't know if it's all "grunge", but to me grunge started the decline of music into what it is today and includes all of those craptastic bands.

It's awful. I'd take the worst hair band over the best grunge band every day of the week and 2x on Sundays.

I also dislike a few of the bands you posted above. Grunge was over by the time Nickelback came around. I inserted my opinions about the bands you mentioned above. To me, real grunge was largely unproduced, was indie, was rebellious against what had been going on. When it became a national thing that record labels wanted a part of, and bands started trying to sound like grunge, it was over. Tung and Hubberjub hit that right on the head in their posts above.

[Eric***]

I also dislike a few of the bands you post. Grunge was over by the time Nickelback came around. I inserted my opinions about the bands you mentioned above. To me, real grunge was largely unproduced, was indie, was rebellious against what had been going on. When it became a national thing that record labels wanted a part of, and bands started trying to sound like grunge, it was over. Tung hit that right on the head in his post above.

This is turning a smidge defensive, so I'm going to play the part of moderator and tell everyone to cool it just a little. I wanted to defend 90s music too, but...it's OK. Live and let live. Your taste in music might be awesome, it might suck...but it's yours. That's OK.

[sunvalleylaw]

This is turning a smidge defensive, so I'm going to play the part of moderator and tell everyone to cool it just a little. I wanted to defend 90s music too, but...it's OK. Live and let live. Your taste in music might be awesome, it might suck...but it's yours. That's OK.

Eric, thanks. I did not notice how I typed that and it might have been misconstrued. I corrected my post to make it more clear. I was trying to agree with C-64 about some of the bands he mentioned that he did not care for. I hope I was not otherwise overly defensive while defending my opinion (I could get really going if I let myself. I was very rebellious against 60's and some 70's era music at the time. I have since moderated. Since taking up guitar, I am open to a lot of stuff I had passed over before.). If I was overly defensive, I agree; Live and let live.

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I like flannel shirts and patterns. [...] But I pretty much hate grunge. [...] I don't really know what "grunge" really is but I pretty much despise: [...] I don't know if it's all "grunge", but to me grunge started the decline of music into what it is today and includes all of those craptastic bands.

I'm sorry to have to be the one who enforces Godwin's law in this thread, but hating something that you only have a superficial idea about is what made concentration camps possible.

[Commodore 64***]

I'm sorry to have to be the one who enforces Godwin's law in this thread, but hating something that you only have a superficial idea about is what made concentration camps possible.

ROFLMAO. You can't be serious. You just can't. You can't possibly be trying to correlate comments about "grunge" on an internet forum with the Holocaust, can you? Really?