I'll bet anything past "10's" are likely to give significant binding.Originally Posted by ted s
Funny responses? How so??
Hey folks, me new Tele came with "Fender super 250's", .009 > .042.
How much wiggle room do you think there is if you fatten up before having to think about the tweaking the nut ?
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edit.. I just realized I left the door open for some funny responses
I'll bet anything past "10's" are likely to give significant binding.Originally Posted by ted s
Funny responses? How so??
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tweak... nut..... I hate that !
I can think of a few responses...
Ah well, I think that all guitars should come with 010 strings. They give a much better sound and feeling, and actually raises the output of the guitar. More fat and not much wiggling ye olde nut required on a tele. Sure, there will be more tension but its definately worth it imho.
I can't say that I've given up on a flanger cause I've never liked the effect either. I also can't say the same about Tremolo. I hate them both equally. - Tone2TheBone 2009
Originally Posted by SuperSwede
I am used to heavier strings anyway from my acoustic, so I think I will give it a try when I re-string my strat. It has what it came with on now. (I don't even know what they are). It seems like a little more tension would help me rather than hurt me with control for tremelo and bending.Any suggestions on a set to buy? I am sure everyone has their favorites.
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Most strats seems to come with 009 sets, which is really sad. A Strat needs at least 010 to sound its best.
Favorite strings? Elixir´s works great for me because I am lazy and want my strings to stay fresh for a long time. I hate changing strings.
I can't say that I've given up on a flanger cause I've never liked the effect either. I also can't say the same about Tremolo. I hate them both equally. - Tone2TheBone 2009
I agree....10s or fatter on Strats and Teles. 10s are fine for Les Pauls. Ernie Balls.
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009s belong on the Hello Kitty strats 010s seem right to me on Strats and Teles - 011s get pretty beefy, and from my experience you would need to make adjustments to the nut to accomodate. There may be some issues going back to a lighter guage once you have the nut carved out to accept larger dia strings. SRV is reported to have played 012s or 013s
011s RAWK on my HB-30 though! But I don't like the wound G string on the set I have on now.
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I currently have 10's on my strat like Godin SD & 11s on my chambered Godin Radiator. They both used to have 9s.
I pick a moon dog.
Well, I've gone and done it. Broke my first string. Coincidentally spoke to the prior owner of my guitar who told me that it has Ernie Ball "10s" on it. Well, after ski coaching tomorrow it is into the guitar shop. Gotta get a new string on so I can play that new amp the rest of the weekend!
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Steve, you should probably replace the entire set. God knows how long the 10´s have been on your guitar. Get a pack of Elixir 10´s and you will never go back to regular strings again.
I can't say that I've given up on a flanger cause I've never liked the effect either. I also can't say the same about Tremolo. I hate them both equally. - Tone2TheBone 2009
What SS said. I'd replace the entire set.
I pick a moon dog.
More good info for us newbies so I read a little on Elixirs. Need to be ready when I finally have to change a set.
SS, do you use the Elixirs with the poly coating or nano coating?
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Ideally I would replace all with Elixir 10s to try them. The local shop does not carry the electric Elixirs, just EBs, and D'Addarios and a couple others, so either I'll do a whole set of the D'Addarios for now, or just throw a new EB D string on for today, and order a set of Elixirs.
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Well, I'm going to totally disagree with earlier posters. My (standard-tuned) Fender has a set of GHS .009-.046. Granted, it's a single humbucker so it's not a "traditional" Strat. When I first started playing I heard all the comments that you needed at least .010s on your guitar to get "tone." All it got me was sore fingers and it kept me from playing with any consistency. If that's the case, then what's the point? Besides that, it is my understanding that Billy Gibbons uses 008s.
I do have a set of .010-.052 D'Addarios on my '51, but that's because I tuned it down to Eb. The .009s were so flabby when tuned down that it was almost impossible to play without fret buzz or fretting notes sharp. That set tuned down gives me roughly the same feel as the .009-.046 set tuned standard.
I'm sure that SRV did a lot to perpetuate the "big strings / better tone" argument. Just because he played .013s (or higher) tuned to Eb doesn't mean that any other sane person should feel obligated to do the same. I can't imagine what I'd have to tune down to. Also, a lot of the NuMetalers and others used huge strings, but you need to when you tune to Drop-D two steps down. You'll also note that NuMetalers very rarely reached for the higher strings.
There was a nice interview with Walter Trout in the January GuitarOne. He said, "By the way, I've always thought it was a myth that you need gigantic strings to get good tone. I got so sick of that myth that I started telling people that I get the skinniest strings available and tune up to F. But that was just to mess with them--I actually use Rotosound .009s and tune standard."
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I use the nano. 010 - 046 works very good with my guitar, but I am thinking about trying a set of 010 - 052.Originally Posted by Hogfullofblues
I can't say that I've given up on a flanger cause I've never liked the effect either. I also can't say the same about Tremolo. I hate them both equally. - Tone2TheBone 2009
Since playing (and purchasing ) with more consistancy this past year, I am discovering that I have much to learn - even after 25 odd years playing.
Not only will different size stings affect the sound of your guitar, but different brands will sound different on different guitars. And obviously the way they "feel" is personal preference. Unlike Marnold, I find 009s too "slinky" (for lack of a better word) - likely because of my background with bass and acoustic guitars. I'm probably a bit heavy handed and like to dig-in too much, but 011s get pretty tough to bend. So 010s it is for me.
I'm not entirely sold on Elixirs. My favorite set (right now) for Ol' Hartley is EB Hybrid-Slinkys. I'm going to try EB 011s (without the wound G string) on Cherry and see what happens. I might go to 010s eventually.
Sorry for the ramble...I don't really know what I'm talking about
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Find out where the string broke before you shell out a daily lift ticket price for Elixers. If you have a burr on a bridge saddle then you surely want to attend to that before rupturing another more expensive and hard to replace string.
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Originally Posted by Spudman
It was definately down at the bridge. I had placed the meaty part of my hand down near the bridge and was re-positioning the guitar on my lap, when it went "sproing". I will look at it more closely now.
Marnold - Thanks for the different point of view. For me, as to size, my strat had 10s on there but I don't know if it was up to 046 or 052. The strings on there are not hard on my hands. I am more used to acoustic strings, and if anything, I am ham fisted fisted enough on my electric to bend the string out of tune when I fret the note or chord as a result. Obviously I need to clean that up, but I don't think I will go lighter in size at this point. Thanks guys.
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