Reply With Quote4 of the J&Js in my Classic 30. Haven't tried anything but the JJs.
Regular Fretter
Anybody Running El84's
Anybody running EL84'S in their amps... wondering what you are using , and if you have tried either jj teslas or electro-harmonix ... 6S9L
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Marty DiBergi: "This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry."
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?
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4 of the J&Js in my Classic 30. Haven't tried anything but the JJs.
Guitars/Bass - MIM Fender Classic 50s Strat, MIM Fender Standard Strat, Squier Classic Vibe 50s Tele, Gibson Les Paul Studio, Epi '56 Gold Top Les Paul, Martin DSR acoustic, Sigma Martin Auditorium electric/acoustic, Squier Jazz Bass.
Amps/Cabinets/Modelers - Model 2558 50 watt Marshall Silver Anniversary Jubilee combo w/ Celestion Vintage 30s, 4x12 Marshall cabinet w/25 watt Greenback Celestions, Fender Blues Junior w/ a couple of Billm mods, Line 6 POD 2.0, Roland Micro Cube
Pedals/Effects - Cry Baby Classic Wah, Boss TU-2, Boss NS-2, Boss RC-2 Loop Station, Ross Compressor, MXR Micro Amp, Danelectro FAB Echo, Danelectro FAB Chorus, Danelectro Chicken Salad, Marshall Guv'nor Plus, Marshall Echohead, Duhvoodooman's Zonkin' Yellow Screamer, Digitech Digiverb, Digitech Bad Monkey, Dunlop Fuzz Face, Homemade Loop Bypass pedal, Duhvoodooman's Sonic Tonic (Maxon SD-9 clone +), Voodoo Labs Superfuzz
Regular Fretter
el84's in my classic 20 and an el84 in my valve jr. all are jj's and i love them. got them from bob at eurotubes....he knows his stuff.
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Guitars: Gibson 1998 Les Paul Special : Peavey Predator (Early 90's Fat Strat Copy) : Ibanez GAX30TROriginally Posted by just strum
Brownsville Reso - 101 Electric Reso : Fender GDO-300 Maple Quilt Top Acoustic
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I have to re-tube a Traynor ygm3 guitar mate reverb , the original tubes are still fine (mullard) so i'll put those away to sell with the amp at some future point . i'm leaning towards the EH tubes as they are a reissue/copy of the mullard el-84 and the traynor is very vox /marshall like in circuitry .. but have heard great things about the reliability of jj tubes regarding heat dissapation . Thanks lads ..
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Marty DiBergi: "This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry."
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?
Addicted to solder....
JJ EL-84's from EuroTubes in both my Peavey Delta Blues (4) and Valve Jr. (1). Love 'em....
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Also in my Peavey Classic 30. Just the ones it came with, Sovtek. Paired with 12ax7 Fender groovetubes (which are actually just sovteks with another label thrown over the top). So far, I am still in love. Huge horny honeymoon period with this amp.
Steve Thompson
Sun Valley, Idaho
Guitars: Fender 60th Anniversary Std. Strat, Squier CVC Tele Hagstrom Viking Semi-hollow, Joshua beach guitar, Martin SPD-16TR Dreadnought
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love is the answer, at least for most of the questions in my heart. . .
- j. johnson
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Peavey Classic 30 - Running Early Breakup JJs from Eurotubes. They make a huge difference.
Luke Skyrawker
You should make this your signature. LOLHuge horny honeymoon period with this amp.
"No Tele For you." - The Tele Nazi
Ha! Tele-ish now inbound.
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Huge horny honeymoon period with this amp.Agrees. Steve, sounds like you're doing some marathon "tone-making" there buddy. LMAOYou should make this your signature. LOL
Guitars/Bass - MIM Fender Classic 50s Strat, MIM Fender Standard Strat, Squier Classic Vibe 50s Tele, Gibson Les Paul Studio, Epi '56 Gold Top Les Paul, Martin DSR acoustic, Sigma Martin Auditorium electric/acoustic, Squier Jazz Bass.
Amps/Cabinets/Modelers - Model 2558 50 watt Marshall Silver Anniversary Jubilee combo w/ Celestion Vintage 30s, 4x12 Marshall cabinet w/25 watt Greenback Celestions, Fender Blues Junior w/ a couple of Billm mods, Line 6 POD 2.0, Roland Micro Cube
Pedals/Effects - Cry Baby Classic Wah, Boss TU-2, Boss NS-2, Boss RC-2 Loop Station, Ross Compressor, MXR Micro Amp, Danelectro FAB Echo, Danelectro FAB Chorus, Danelectro Chicken Salad, Marshall Guv'nor Plus, Marshall Echohead, Duhvoodooman's Zonkin' Yellow Screamer, Digitech Digiverb, Digitech Bad Monkey, Dunlop Fuzz Face, Homemade Loop Bypass pedal, Duhvoodooman's Sonic Tonic (Maxon SD-9 clone +), Voodoo Labs Superfuzz
Addicted to solder....
So that's what "triple H" stands for, huh?
DVM's Ever-Expanding Gear List:
Guitars - W-A-A-A-Y-Y too many to list. Check 'em all out HERE
Amps & Cabs - "Kap'n Kerrang-aroo" BYOC 18W TMB kit amp head; Mojave Coyote head; Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Lacquered Tweed Ltd. Ed.; Allen Sweet Spot kit amp; BYOC Tweed Royal kit amp; Epiphone Valve Jr. combo + mods; Drive 2x12 cab / Celestion G12M Greenback + G12H30; AB Custom Audio 1x12 cab / Celestion Alnico Blue
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Yes! That's up there with the Fret classicYou should make this your signature. LOL
"With this amph, I get no screaming solos".
I pick a moon dog.
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You should make this your signature. LOL
Done. Back to the honeymoon.
Steve Thompson
Sun Valley, Idaho
Guitars: Fender 60th Anniversary Std. Strat, Squier CVC Tele Hagstrom Viking Semi-hollow, Joshua beach guitar, Martin SPD-16TR Dreadnought
Amphs: Peavey Classic 30, '61 Fender Concert
Effects and such: Boss: DS-1, CE-5, NS-2 and RC20XL looper, Digitech Bad Monkey, Korg AX1G Multi-effects, Berhinger: TU100 tuner, PB100 Clean Boost, Line 6 Toneport UX2, Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi, DuhVoodooMan's Rabid Rodent Rat Clone, Zonkin Yellow Screamer Mk. II, MXR Carbon Copy Delay
love is the answer, at least for most of the questions in my heart. . .
- j. johnson
Regular Fretter
i like it....
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Guitars: Gibson 1998 Les Paul Special : Peavey Predator (Early 90's Fat Strat Copy) : Ibanez GAX30TR
Brownsville Reso - 101 Electric Reso : Fender GDO-300 Maple Quilt Top Acoustic
Amps: Fender Super Champ XD
Effects: Digitech RP250 Modeling Guitar Processor : DVM "Phased and Confused" Script Phaser Clone : Digitech Bad Monkey
Danelectro Cool Cat Chorus : Behringer Distortion Modeler : Ernie Ball Volume Pedal : Dunlop Cry Baby Wah
Regular Fretter
Let's see if we can get this thread back on a constructive tangent.
From hanging around here on FN, one might start thinking that J & J's were the only vacuum tube on the planet. Even though they're a excellent-sounding tubes, and very reliable, there are a lot of choices out there. Here's a straight take on a few brands of EL-84 I've used recently.
Prior to re-tubing my Classic 30 with J & J's, I was running Groove Tubes (both EL84's and 12AX-7's). The big difference I noted between the GT's and the J & J's was the touch-responsiveness for clean and lower gain tones, and warmer mids and highs (think Frampton). The J & J's tended to have a smoother, more even break-up, which I also thought lent itself more effectively to pedal usage. The Groove Tubes were slightly brighter-sounding, quicker to break-up, with a bit more edge on the mids and highs (think Slash).
I am currently running an Electro Harmonix EL-84 EH in my Valve Jr. head, which is paired with a Groove Tubes 12AX7-M, and that duo together creates some pretty spectacular tones (think early 70's Townshend). To my ears, the EH adds some much needed bite to the Jr's somewhat-middy timbre, and the GT 12AX7-M provides just the right amount of warmth to even things out. The J & J EL84 I'm running in my Valve Jr. combo isn't quite as bright as the EH in my head, though it does seem to carry a bit more weight on the bottom end. The EH's tend to pull a little more current, too, which I think would be a plus for amps with a Vox-like circuit design - like a Traynor.
I've heard good things about the new Groove Tubes EL84-S's, so you might want to check them out, too. Apparently, the new tube design is much warmer than its predacessor, not to mention that it carries a bit more "oomph" power-wise.
I'd guess that you'd be satisfied with just about anything we've mentioned, to include the venerable J & J's - - which I, of course, fully endorse. For most newer tube amps (1990 - present), changing tubes is a simple, cost-effective way to experiment with tone. With the exception of pedals & pick-ups, there's probably isn't an easier way to give your sound a complete make-over.
BTW 69SL - hope you have better luck with this re-tube than the one you just did on your Vibro Toast . . . er, I mean Vibro Champ!
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