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    I have been wrestling with GarageBand 10 and losing, at east in terms of getting what I would call decent tones. Cleans are not bad but all the dirt is very harsh and papery sounding. No depth.

    Not giving up but to give myself a break I decided to record some live amp stuff and am a little bit more pleased with the outcome. Recorded rhythm and lead through vocal mic channels, got all the effects from the front end. But speaking of modelling, this isn't just the amp. Using my Boss GT-100 as a pedalboard through a Mesa Transatlantic. Two mics, an old Audix in the gill of amp and an older Apex condenser mic further back for room sound stuff.

    I think it's getting close to tube-ish but hard to say having heard it a bit. The drums and bass are GB10. Rhythm on a Strat, lead and slide on a PRS singlecut semi.

    Give a listen if you like. Comments always welcome, especially about the guitar tones and tones overall. I know the ditty and playing aint nothing to write home about, but the sound is at least getting closer.


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    Guitars -- 2 PRS CE 24s 85/15 pups, PRS semi-hollow CE 22, Fender Baja Telecaster; Gibson Les Paul Standard; 80s Strat updated with custom 69 pups, Anniversary Strat with Fat 50s, Epiphone Sheraton re-issue; Yamaha 5-string bass; Yamaha TBS 6 and 12 string acoustics,Takamine acoustic, Fender nylon string acoustic
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    Hey man, cool track! I like the sound of the Strat better and how it sounds sitting in the mix. I find the tone of the PRS less pleasing to my ears. Your playing is very good and the timing is tight. I gave up on mic'ing my amps a long time ago. More power too you for that. Nice overall track.
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    Helliott, been a long time since you posted your playing. Just LOVE this......nice and tight....really like the slide playing as you don't do a lot of long swoops, so it feels tighter. Very good micing. Just great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stingx View Post
    Hey man, cool track! I like the sound of the Strat better and how it sounds sitting in the mix. I find the tone of the PRS less pleasing to my ears. Your playing is very good and the timing is tight. I gave up on mic'ing my amps a long time ago. More power too you for that. Nice overall track.
    Thanks, Stingx. I want to give up micing but cannot find the tones that allow that. Will keep chasing that. Did you think the PRS was to far up in the mix or just not like that tone? Just wonderin?
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    Guitars -- 2 PRS CE 24s 85/15 pups, PRS semi-hollow CE 22, Fender Baja Telecaster; Gibson Les Paul Standard; 80s Strat updated with custom 69 pups, Anniversary Strat with Fat 50s, Epiphone Sheraton re-issue; Yamaha 5-string bass; Yamaha TBS 6 and 12 string acoustics,Takamine acoustic, Fender nylon string acoustic
    Amps -- Mesa Boogie Lone Star; Boss Katana 100, Peavey Blueamaster 2x10, Line 6 Helix
    Pedals etc: Mosfet Full Drive 2; Ibanez Tube Screamer; Fairfield Barbershop OD, Diamond Compressor; Voodo Sparkledrive, Boss Digital Delay DD7; Boss TU2 Chromatic Tuner; Cry Baby wah

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    Thanks, piebaldpython for taking the time to listen over these years. That's very kind. I agree about the long swoops, although to be honest I'd do it more if I could keep the intonation. As you can hear that's a struggle at the best of times.
    helliott in Hamilton
    Guitars -- 2 PRS CE 24s 85/15 pups, PRS semi-hollow CE 22, Fender Baja Telecaster; Gibson Les Paul Standard; 80s Strat updated with custom 69 pups, Anniversary Strat with Fat 50s, Epiphone Sheraton re-issue; Yamaha 5-string bass; Yamaha TBS 6 and 12 string acoustics,Takamine acoustic, Fender nylon string acoustic
    Amps -- Mesa Boogie Lone Star; Boss Katana 100, Peavey Blueamaster 2x10, Line 6 Helix
    Pedals etc: Mosfet Full Drive 2; Ibanez Tube Screamer; Fairfield Barbershop OD, Diamond Compressor; Voodo Sparkledrive, Boss Digital Delay DD7; Boss TU2 Chromatic Tuner; Cry Baby wah

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    Nice track - heck, I'd sure be writing home if I could play like that! I don't know from recording, but it sounds good to me, with a nice room/ambient feel.
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    Thanks TJ Curtain. I find getting decent tones at bedroom volumes a constant challenge. You?
    helliott in Hamilton
    Guitars -- 2 PRS CE 24s 85/15 pups, PRS semi-hollow CE 22, Fender Baja Telecaster; Gibson Les Paul Standard; 80s Strat updated with custom 69 pups, Anniversary Strat with Fat 50s, Epiphone Sheraton re-issue; Yamaha 5-string bass; Yamaha TBS 6 and 12 string acoustics,Takamine acoustic, Fender nylon string acoustic
    Amps -- Mesa Boogie Lone Star; Boss Katana 100, Peavey Blueamaster 2x10, Line 6 Helix
    Pedals etc: Mosfet Full Drive 2; Ibanez Tube Screamer; Fairfield Barbershop OD, Diamond Compressor; Voodo Sparkledrive, Boss Digital Delay DD7; Boss TU2 Chromatic Tuner; Cry Baby wah

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    Yeah, I've never quite figured out a satisfying OD sound at low volumes - fortunately for me, I prefer a clean tone most of the time.
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    One thing to try is to keep the volume on your guitar at 8 or 9. It takes away a bit of the harsh top end I always find in digital gear.
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