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    I have a big problem with Telecaster controls.

    It seems hard (nearly impossible) to get my finger between the volume knob and the switch when the switch is in the bridge position. It makes fast pickup selection a bit of a chore and very frustrating.

    A Strat switch is out there where you can easily flick it. Same with a Les Paul switch. Why isn't the Tele as easy to use? Does anyone make an aftermarket control plate that moves the volume knob towards the tone knob? Should we start a movement to get the spacing changed at the factory?

    There is a lot of unused real estate between the two knobs. Shouldn't they be closer together?

    What is your take on it?

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    That is not a problem with my Muddy Waters Tele knobs. I think all Teles should benefit from the use of Fender amph knobs like the Muddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tone2thebone
    That is not a problem with my Muddy Waters Tele knobs. I think all Teles should benefit from the use of Fender amph knobs like the Muddy!
    I've heard good things about the Muddy Waters Tele. What's your opinion Tone?
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    I could see how those knobs would give just a little more space to get to the switch. Unfortunately, every other Tele comes with the chrome knobs. I like those myself.

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    I really like the switches and knobs on my Tele...I wouldnt change a thing...but thats just my opnion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
    I've heard good things about the Muddy Waters Tele. What's your opinion Tone?
    The first thing I noticed when playing the Muddy was how loud and clean the strings vibrate. I attribute that to the vintage tailpiece with 3 brass saddles, the medium jumbo frets and the ash body. Plus the fact that it IS a standard string through body design by nature. You get a much more defined tone on this compared to a floating trem Strat. My Muddy is about as heavy as my Gibson LP.....about over 8 pounds. I also think the CAR finish has something to do with how absolutely spanky that baby gets. Seriously it's pure magic to play. It inspires you to play stuff you didn't think was possible. It has stock pickups in the neck and bridge that sound wonderful. I can play anything with this guitar. Bridge stuff is just freakin' awesome....bridge/middle very sparkly....and the neck just plain SMOKES. It also sports a fine set of vintage Fender/Gotoh tuners. The Muddy Waters Telecaster is probably the best guitar for the blues period! I've learned that the Telecaster is one versatile instrument. I never owned a Tele until I found this one.
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    So if you had to pick between your tele and your les paul for ONE guitar to diversify guitar ownership from a strat, which would you pick?, and why?

    EDIT: Dang, I passed 500 posts in the last day or two and didn't even notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunvalleylaw
    So if you had to pick between your tele and your les paul for ONE guitar to diversify guitar ownership from a strat, which would you pick?, and why?

    EDIT: Dang, I passed 500 posts in the last day or two and didn't even notice.
    I would be torn but I'd probably have to say my Tele. BUT when I stand around playing some blues the Gibson is right at home with that too. I just come down on the volume knob for a lot of that stuff and utilize all the pickup position choices...either both neck and bridge or just neck. Bridge goes a long way as well. You can blues out or rock out with the Les Paul thats for damn sure. GEE DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE ME CHOOSE?! heh But sure I'd take the Tele to a show or a studio.
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    I actually prefer the tele configuration because I am always bumping the switch on my strat out of the neck position by accident. (I dont play it that much, though) On the tele I can hook the switch from underneath with my pinky when it's in the bridge position.
    Also, the gap between the pots makes for easy swells.

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    I too didn't like the layout from the factory. I turned my plate 180 degrees & now the order is like this:

    3-way switch nearest Jack (rear)
    Tone in the middel
    Volume nearest the neck (front)
    BTW- I'm a Lefty and those are Glendale Saddles

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    Quote Originally Posted by fendermojoman
    BTW- I'm a Lefty
    Well theres your problem, your stuff is installed upside down/backwards.

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    Talking Right brained

    Quote Originally Posted by ShortBuSX
    Well theres your problem, your stuff is installed upside down/backwards.
    Ain't it the truth! But if I play in front of a big mirror I'm back to normal. Now if I can just find my left hand chromatic tuner . . . . . . .
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    I bought a set of the finest Strat PUPS from this guy and now look what he has!
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    That's pretty smart too. Kinnman stuff is awesome.

    I still don't understand why it's so difficult to just drill the holes closer together. Who needs that kind of room between the knobs? Do the companies think all Tele players have pudgy fingers of something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fendermojoman
    I too didn't like the layout from the factory. I turned my plate 180 degrees & now the order is like this:

    3-way switch nearest Jack (rear)
    Tone in the middel
    Volume nearest the neck (front)
    BTW- I'm a Lefty and those are Glendale Saddles
    I like this idea. I think I'll try it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fendermojoman
    I too didn't like the layout from the factory. I turned my plate 180 degrees & now the order is like this:

    3-way switch nearest Jack (rear)
    Tone in the middel
    Volume nearest the neck (front)
    BTW- I'm a Lefty and those are Glendale Saddles
    Hey FenderMojo, was there enough slack in the wiring to just flip it ?

    thanks

    Ted

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    When I watched the Brent Mason Podcast I noticed that he had his control knobs further from the switch and closer together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ted s
    Hey FenderMojo, was there enough slack in the wiring to just flip it ?

    thanks

    Ted
    Not for every wire but, but it was moot for me-while I had it "out" I replaced all pots and cap with an upgrade kit from RS guitarworks. It even came with a Hoveland yellow cap!!!! Now my Seymour Vintage Stacks really come to life and no hum either!
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    You can change the standard control plate:



    To this one that has the volume pot's hole closer to the tone pot's one:


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