I'm a Gibson guy, myself - with three Strats in the house. Hang on to your Strat. Sometimes, only a Strat is good enough......................
I think - er - I dunno....OK..
I have my two main axes...a strat and a LP special 2...both modded to the hilt. Now for the dumb part. The more I really dig in at the studio spending loads and loads of time writing, playing, listening, playing more...picking up both guitars..playing the same riffs on them playing more....listening...
I think you get the point.
I have came to the conclusion that I'm a Gibson kind of Guy...not fender and to you people you might be like : good job ya goob WTH are you getting at. I really really like my strat but the more I play it then play me shorter scale Epi..the more I don't want to play it. WHAT DO I DO? Do I just suck it up, keep playing the Strat OR sell it or save up for a Gibson or other brand guitar? I know ultimately its my decision but I've grown accustomed to all y'all opinions cause I respect you all as peers and friends! I dunno maybe I need some and : ..... that being said I'm stuck and I don't know what to do
Guitars: Epiphone Special 2 LP modded with a SD Pearly Gates and a SD Alnico 2 flat strat pro.300K pots.Tone pros Brass Stop tailpiece.Dunlop frets dressed to .031,LSR roller nut, Spezel custom stainless steel locking tuners. Satin finished neck.Fender MIM 50's strat modded with LSR roller nut, graph tech string tree,sperzel satin chrome locking tuners, graph tech saddles,300K push pull volume for "neck on pup" and 200K tone pots.PUPS:Neck seymore duncan QP single coil for strat. Middle: Seymour Duncan JB Jr with coil tap (so actually a 9 way tone selection). Bridge: Same as neck.Amps/Cabs.2 Epi Valve Jr's, Peavey Delta Blues 1x15. Randall RG200es,Guitar research 4x8 cab loaded W/celestion super 8's and rewired for two-2x8 operation.Marshall 4x12 slant lead cab,Johnson cab 1x12.
I'm a Gibson guy, myself - with three Strats in the house. Hang on to your Strat. Sometimes, only a Strat is good enough......................
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Yeah, play what you like but hang on to it. That super strat you made was at one point was your one guitar quiver, so I am sure it still has a place in your arsenal.
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If it's paid for keep it. Eventually you'll want it and it will be there for you. IF it's gone then your are S.O.L.
What if some local producer says "I love the way you play and I'm doing an album with Michael Bolton. Will come over and play some Knopfleresque tones on 8 of the tracks? What are you gonna do?
"No Tele For you." - The Tele Nazi
Ha! Tele-ish now inbound.
Keep the Strat and then get a Tele too! IMO the Tele is a perfect companion to a Les Paul in terms of weight, sound and the added versatility of playing "Fender" tones when you really want them. You can also play some rockin' stuff on a Tele too. It might be that you prefer the sound of the Gibsons over the Fenders cause if you really loved the Strat sound you'd never have written this thread. But then your Strat really isn't a "Strat" anymore with your mods. Yup you really don't like the "Fender" sound do you.
Last edited by Tone2TheBone; December 19th, 2007 at 09:35 AM.
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I'm not necessarily a Gibson guy, but at the same time, of the "big 3" guitar icons (Strat, Tele, LP), I've fallen out of love with Strats, and much prefer an LP or Tele type guitar.
That being said, having one of a given type is not necessarily mutually exclusive of having others. Remember, you'll hopefully have a long guitar-playing life ahead of you, and unless funds are and remain really tight, there's no reason you can't keep an inexpensive Strat around while saving up for a Gibson LP or whatever else may float your boat, or sell the Strat for the time being and pick up another cheapie later.
That's sorta what I've done. Even though I'm not a "Strat guy," still there are some things that a Strat does that other guitars don't (particularly the "quack" voicings of the 2 and 4 pup positions), and I like to have one to have something with a hippy stick to do some mild trem work also.
So what I do is keep an inexpensive Strat on hand (most recently, first a MIM Fender, followed by a Peavey USA Predator after I sold the Fender), but I also have plenty of other guitars in the LP and Tele camps. If some great deal that I need to raise funds for comes along, I can always sell the inexpensive Strat and get another one later.
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good advice....keep it and save up. Thats what I thought too BUUUUUUT I have gas bad for a LP or a new Melody Maker (with two single coils) and funds are MORE than tight!
Guitars: Epiphone Special 2 LP modded with a SD Pearly Gates and a SD Alnico 2 flat strat pro.300K pots.Tone pros Brass Stop tailpiece.Dunlop frets dressed to .031,LSR roller nut, Spezel custom stainless steel locking tuners. Satin finished neck.Fender MIM 50's strat modded with LSR roller nut, graph tech string tree,sperzel satin chrome locking tuners, graph tech saddles,300K push pull volume for "neck on pup" and 200K tone pots.PUPS:Neck seymore duncan QP single coil for strat. Middle: Seymour Duncan JB Jr with coil tap (so actually a 9 way tone selection). Bridge: Same as neck.Amps/Cabs.2 Epi Valve Jr's, Peavey Delta Blues 1x15. Randall RG200es,Guitar research 4x8 cab loaded W/celestion super 8's and rewired for two-2x8 operation.Marshall 4x12 slant lead cab,Johnson cab 1x12.
Oh I love the fender sound...this was my only axe for a while and thats why I had to make it versatile...then I made the LP Special 2 what it is.Originally Posted by Tone2TheBone
Its not the strat sound I don't like....since I have been playing every day now for 6-8 hours and switching between axes I don't like the scale length and feel, but I love the sound. Since I have the Neck on switch and single coils on the end I can still get the quack...the bucker in the middle is nice and mellow, think neck pup with just a little more brite on a Paul. The single coils are nice and hot but since the pole pieces are huge the sound is nice and fat also.
So its the scale length, string tension, string spacing and overall feel. The strat sound is killer....I have it there. Your standard "quack", a neck and a bridge single coil. I put the Seymour Duncan JB mini hum in the middle cause I hardly ever use the middle position single coil <---reminds me of the Pole we did on what position in a 5 way we use so I got versatile sounds and a great axe that has never broken a string (LSR roller nut, graph tech string tree and saddles.) all in all I have sunk a crap load of money in it, but the more I play it the less I like it. I dunno guys...but I agree that I should keep it (after talking to you guys) so thats what I will do and save up for another axe.
Guitars: Epiphone Special 2 LP modded with a SD Pearly Gates and a SD Alnico 2 flat strat pro.300K pots.Tone pros Brass Stop tailpiece.Dunlop frets dressed to .031,LSR roller nut, Spezel custom stainless steel locking tuners. Satin finished neck.Fender MIM 50's strat modded with LSR roller nut, graph tech string tree,sperzel satin chrome locking tuners, graph tech saddles,300K push pull volume for "neck on pup" and 200K tone pots.PUPS:Neck seymore duncan QP single coil for strat. Middle: Seymour Duncan JB Jr with coil tap (so actually a 9 way tone selection). Bridge: Same as neck.Amps/Cabs.2 Epi Valve Jr's, Peavey Delta Blues 1x15. Randall RG200es,Guitar research 4x8 cab loaded W/celestion super 8's and rewired for two-2x8 operation.Marshall 4x12 slant lead cab,Johnson cab 1x12.
Hang on to the Strat.
At some point down the road after not having played it for awhile, you'll re-discover it. And you'll be amazed at the tones you hear that you don't remember hearing before. It's funny how that happens...
+1 Exactly. You'll also think 'man this plays great. What was I thinking?'Originally Posted by Bloozcat
"No Tele For you." - The Tele Nazi
Ha! Tele-ish now inbound.
hang on to the strat if you must....but i would trade it for a nice tele... :
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Guitars: Gibson 1998 Les Paul Special : Peavey Predator (Early 90's Fat Strat Copy) : Ibanez GAX30TROriginally Posted by just strum
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I'm a fender guy myself, but at the same time, Gibson makes good stuff too, why should you have to decide, besides, maybe you should sell you're les paul and get maybe an agile or something a little more substantial.
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LG - I know how awesome the LP scale feels. It was my first electric and I was so comfortable with it. I hated Strats in high school I hated them. I couldn't play them and "had no use for them" simply because I was so used to my Les Paul it was so easy to play. Of course now it's a different story....but if this is how you feel then by all means sell man sell. Get another sweet LP and Merry Christmas dude.
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Keep the Strat. You may like playing the LP/Gibson short-scale better, but tonally, the two guitars are S-O-O-O different. There are going to be times when you need that Strat tone, for one reason or another.
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yeah....Im keeping it BUT im saving up for a Melody maker.
And trust me....the LP special 2 has a ton of substance
The strat is a great guitar for certain things.... And so is the LP....I guess Im gonna have to pony up and just love the strat tones and deal with the scale length and feel.
Guitars: Epiphone Special 2 LP modded with a SD Pearly Gates and a SD Alnico 2 flat strat pro.300K pots.Tone pros Brass Stop tailpiece.Dunlop frets dressed to .031,LSR roller nut, Spezel custom stainless steel locking tuners. Satin finished neck.Fender MIM 50's strat modded with LSR roller nut, graph tech string tree,sperzel satin chrome locking tuners, graph tech saddles,300K push pull volume for "neck on pup" and 200K tone pots.PUPS:Neck seymore duncan QP single coil for strat. Middle: Seymour Duncan JB Jr with coil tap (so actually a 9 way tone selection). Bridge: Same as neck.Amps/Cabs.2 Epi Valve Jr's, Peavey Delta Blues 1x15. Randall RG200es,Guitar research 4x8 cab loaded W/celestion super 8's and rewired for two-2x8 operation.Marshall 4x12 slant lead cab,Johnson cab 1x12.
my lp special is one of my favs!!Originally Posted by LagrangeCalvert
a melody maker would be a nice addition...
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Guitars: Gibson 1998 Les Paul Special : Peavey Predator (Early 90's Fat Strat Copy) : Ibanez GAX30TROriginally Posted by just strum
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Try some Ernie Ball Slinky strings and it will change the feel a bit.Originally Posted by LagrangeCalvert
"No Tele For you." - The Tele Nazi
Ha! Tele-ish now inbound.
Better yet put some DR Tite Fits on that Strat. Size 10s feel like 9s and 9s feel like 8s. They're looser feeling but sound damn good I use them on my A440 tuned guitars. That will make the Strat feel better.
Guitars/Bass - MIM Fender Classic 50s Strat, MIM Fender Standard Strat, Squier Classic Vibe 50s Tele, Gibson Les Paul Studio, Epi '56 Gold Top Les Paul, Martin DSR acoustic, Sigma Martin Auditorium electric/acoustic, Squier Jazz Bass.
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Originally Posted by Tone2TheBone
Interesting. This newb started with a strat, and that feels right to me. I have played around on Spudman's Epi LP, which is a nice guitar, and it felt weird at first. Still, I think you should keep the strat, just because coming back to it might make you approach playing differently at some point. Some guy I jammed with once tried out my strat, stating that he was an LP scale (I think) humbucker guy and did not really favor strats. He got into it on mine though, and after ripping for a while, handed it back over and gave me a positive nod, saying that it made him approach his playing differently. He plays harder stuff that falls in the categories of metal, alternative, punk and related, and is a good player.
Steve Thompson
Sun Valley, Idaho
Guitars: Fender 60th Anniversary Std. Strat, Squier CVC Tele Hagstrom Viking Semi-hollow, Joshua beach guitar, Martin SPD-16TR Dreadnought
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