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    Okay, let us play with open cards here. I have witnessed and self experienced the following situation some couple of times:

    "What?!?! you think the Beatles are overrated? They were great, get yourself some new pair of ears!" Most people who verbally attack other's musical opinions are the ones who have never listened to the entire catalogue of for e.g. The Beatles or The Rolling Stones.

    I have my issues giving the share to the follwoing bands/musicians, as I think they have been hyped in a way:

    1. The Beatles - The achetype of the Boyband. They were revolutionary for their time, good musicians, nice songwriting, super results out of a 4-track machine. BUT, I have my problems acknowledging all they did. I think some stuff was pretty lame, some songs were "Bonbon Candy" songs with horrible lyrics and George Harrison was not that great guitar player that everybody sees in him.

    2. Eric Clapton - Clapton appealed to me much with his Robert Johnson stuff, although he sounds very polished. He repeats most of his licks and never really developped. Of course he revolutionized and godfathered the whole unplugged concerts, but he's still so and so in my eyes.

    3. Prince - Tough one. I see that he has above-average talent, but he is not the great guitarist everyone sees in him. Not worth an interview in Guitar World. His technique is so and so and his singing is unbearable to me when he sings a whole song with his head voice. God beware!

    4. BB King - "BB can destroy every player with one note"! Have you heard that before? I think so. BB is a wonderful singer to me, but his guitar repertoire is to small for me to call him a great player. Sure you recognize him, but is he really that good? I saw him talking once about how Jazz chords influenced him and how he integrates then into his playing. Does he really do so? I have never heard that.

    I write all this with respect to the a.m. musicians. It is my personal opinion and you might be of a completely different opinion on what I wrote, but I started this thread to get to know which players are overrated in your eyes and why so.


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    I don't know, man--do we really want to do this? This is one of those topics that may be interesting, but seems prone to generating hard feelings. I know we're an uncommonly civilized group here, by internet standards, but this seems like tempting the fates! Think I'll sit this one out....
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    What if the question is spun, who are the under-rated and why ? Might be safer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ted s
    What if the question is spun, who are the under-rated and why ? Might be safer ?
    Okay I understand. Don't want to evoke hard feelings or mixed emotions. If this one is too hard then maybe ted s can post his idea. There is definitely also some couple names on that list.

    Thanks for reminding me - party on'
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    Take it away Jimi.. she's yours.

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    This is another subjectivity issue in which much will not prove to be beneficial to discuss because it simply relies too much on personal preference and taste.

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    As everyone feels the same about it, I respectfully edit my post.
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    I believe we already had two similar threads (overrated and underrated guitarists).
    And +1 on DVM and Spuds take on this, though we can always politely disagree.
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    Very subjective........................one man's over rated player is another's hero.
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    All I want to add here is ... Robert Renman is way over-rated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    All I want to add here is ... Robert Renman is way over-rated!
    LOL!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    All I want to add here is ... Robert Renman is way over-rated!
    That may be so and I can agree on this with you. However, he does have a fabulous delay pedal. :

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    That's what I've been saying - as long as you can flash cool looking and cool sounding gear - who cares if you can play!

    If I can't look good myself, at least I can have gear that looks good.


    (disclaimer: if you don't know me, take the above with a pinch of salt.)
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    Nice avatar, Robert. Is the lettering custom-made or stock?
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    I got that lettering factory-made for me, due to my incredible online (over-rated) fame status.
    Last edited by Robert; February 11th, 2008 at 04:12 PM. Reason: The critical word "over-rated" was missing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    All I want to add here is ... Robert Renman is way over-rated!
    I disagree..... some of his earlier "snake-vein" playing was great!!Also, I do think some of his upcoming stuff may "echo" his old playing, btw.
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    Oh man, next time I go traveling, "Snakes On A Plane" will have a new meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    That's what I've been saying - as long as you can flash cool looking and cool sounding gear - who cares if you can play!

    If I can't look good myself, at least I can have gear that looks good.
    Remember what Fernando said! It's not how you sound, it's how you look. And Robert....you look MAHVELOUS!!

    (Except the creepy veins, of course....)
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    I think this whole post is in vein!
















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