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    Default Phase of middle pickup.

    What are fretters preferences for the middle pickup? In phase or out of phase with the neck & bridge. Spudman? The one on my SD is wired out of phase.

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    My middle pup is reverse wound. In positions 2 and 4 on my Strat I get hum cancelling which is handy at times. I get plenty of good quack in those positions too so I'm happy. Middle by itself sounds pretty good on a few things.
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    I agree with Tone. Hum cancelling being the highest preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tone2thebone
    My middle pup is reverse wound. In positions 2 and 4 on my Strat I get hum cancelling which is handy at times. I get plenty of good quack in those positions too so I'm happy. Middle by itself sounds pretty good on a few things.
    So when do you use the middle pickup alone?

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    I use the middle pickup when I get tired of the sounds from the other positions. hahahaha

    I love the sound of the neck pickup alone. Sometimes I like position 4 (neck and middle) but only when it's clean. Neck sounds good clean or dirty. Middle does too...but when you play the quack positions dirty I think you lose a little definition in the higher notes. But when playing a shuffle rhythm or something in both neck/middle or middle/bridge it sounds cool. Just depends.
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    You can use it anytime you wish. Just reach down and slide the selector switch 2 places down from the neck pick-up position. At times you can go down 2 more places and chose the bridge pick-up. That is an awesome sound for screaming solos.
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    How does one maximize the quack? I have been fiddling with the heights on my pickups and notice the quack is sometimes more pronounced and sometimes less so, but I've yet to figure out the underlying concept. I once ran acroos a discussion of this sort on the net, but I cannot seem to find it again.

    BTW, I was in a guitar store today and played an EC Strat through a Badcat Cub II, Donald was in da house!

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    Some pickups have the ability to quack better than others. Maybe yours don't do it that well? I found on an older Peavey Predator Plus that I had I couldn't get the quack thing to happen.

    "No Tele For you." - The Tele Nazi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman
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    Some pickups have the ability to quack better than others. Maybe yours don't do it that well? I found on an older Peavey Predator Plus that I had I couldn't get the quack thing to happen.
    I can get it to quack, but I'm sure that better pups would help. What woud be your suggestion? Fralins?

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    I think if you raise the bridge and lower the middle pups you will get more quack. That is what I follow and have a good quack.
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    What Tim said. That is how my middle pickup is setup and I notice more quack that way. The middle pup is slightly lower than both the neck and bridge. Total quackage.
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    Tone – Good to see we agree on this one. Something to do with the angle of the dangle which is directly proportional to the mass ….
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    uhuh....then squared and times pi.
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    I know one strat guy here who has disconnected his middle pup and he gets very authentic tele sound from the middle position. I think it is two texas specials.
    I can't say that I've given up on a flanger cause I've never liked the effect either. I also can't say the same about Tremolo. I hate them both equally. - Tone2TheBone 2009

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    I'd just get a Tele to do that. I love my middle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tone2thebone
    What Tim said. That is how my middle pickup is setup and I notice more quack that way. The middle pup is slightly lower than both the neck and bridge. Total quackage.
    That's intriguing. I have the middle set highr than the neck or bridge so that
    there isn't a volume drop change from neck to neck/middle to neck/bridge to bridge. I'll lower the middle and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
    How does one maximize the quack?
    Buy a duck, and have the duck play the guitar!

    Sorry Tot, couldn't resist!!!

    EDIT: In fact, if you get that AFLACK duck, you'll be guaranteed a lot of Quack!
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    Quack! Quack!
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    you guys quack me up....even if the jokes are reduckulous!



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