That's because it's a "tube" amp(h)... don't you have a tube patch kit?
I mentioned in the H&K Tube Edition 20 thread that my new amph (nod to Rocket) makes a whooshy, leaky sound when I use the reverb and play notes near the nut on the A string. The open A is worst. Other notes don't make this sound & if the reverb is off it's quiet as you please.
Has anyone experienced this before? Any ideas what could be causing it? It's an accutronics reverb, if that's of any help.
http://www.accutronicsreverb.com/rvbtheop.htm
More info on how spring reverb units work.
http://sound.westhost.com/project34.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~roymal/accutron.htm
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That's because it's a "tube" amp(h)... don't you have a tube patch kit?
It's only with the A string?? I'm just taking a stab at this as I've never heard anything like that before, but could it be something with the nut itself that is really coming out more with the new amp?Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
Again, I'm only taking a shot in the dark here...but it is a little unusual that it is just with that one string.
Guitars: 2003 and 2004 American series strats, Squier Classic Vibe 50's Strat, Squier Deluxe Strat.
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I knew I was playing the straight man Rocket, but I was expecting Strum to hit it out of the park.
It's not the nut.Originally Posted by TS808
I think it's something resonant with that low A and the notes nearby A# & B are just close to the resonant frequency.
It only happens with the reverb on, not with it off.
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Originally Posted by Rocket
That was easy - problem fixed.
I was going to suggest a cork, it was a tough one to leave to someone else, but the patches not only hit it out of the park, it was a Grand Slam.
Tot, if I had a clue on how to help you, I would have spoke up. Now, if you want me to try to sell it for you...
Mark
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If it were an acoustic guitar I'd bet it was due to Helmholtz resonance effect... I can't imagine how it would affect an electric though.
Have you tried another guitar?
I will say that at home I thought the reverb was a bit heavy but out in the real world it sounded really good. Could it be that because it's such a good amph that it's able to bring out some issues that your guitar has? If it is the frequency then playing A or Bb or Ab chords or notes elsewhere on the guitar should also make the same problem evident to some degree. Does this happen?
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I tried it at very low volumes (it's early) & with the amp on the floor --to rule out any issues with the stand.
I tried 3 guitars (my two plus my son's). I narrowed it down to the low B. The sound occurs for the B on both the low E string & the A string. Everytime with every guitar. I haven't found any other notes that cause the same problem.
In listening closer, it sounds exactly like a spring vibrating & then rubbing up against metal while still vibrating.
I think that it is clearly something wrong with the spring reverb. I'll try again later when I can turn it up a bit.
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Originally Posted by Rocket
Nice one Rocket.....very nice.
Guitars: 2002 Les Paul Studio Limited Color's Edition | 2004 Greg Bennett Avion Les Paul Copy | S101 Telecaster project | 2004 Washburn D46 Acoustic
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Could be the springs in your reverb tank were damaged in shipping.Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
Guitars (All Lefty): Fender MIM Wine Red Telecaster
Washburn D10SCELHBK
Greg Bennett (Samick) Avion AV3/LH/CS
Franken-Strat (Maple Neck / Black Body & Pickguard / 2-Point Tremolo / GFS Alnico Single-coil Pups / Gold Hardware)
2 Fullerton Standard Strats; Sunburst w/ GFS Overwound P'ups and Black w/ GFS Lil Killer Rail 'Buckers
Fullerton Deluxe Dreadnought
Amp: Blackheart BH1HS Killer Ant Half Stack (Bitmo Ant Eater Kit)
Crate V18-112 (Goodsell RGM Speaker / Accutronics Tank / Switch R4 - R10 Mod)
Pignose G40V (Jensen MOD Speaker / DC Heater Mod / Pentode:Triode Switch)
Fender Champion 30 Reverb (Accutronics Tank / Jensen MOD Speaker)
Speaker Cab: Lopo 1x12 Tweed Convertible w/ Eminence GB128 Speaker
Pedals: Korg ToneWorks AX1000G, AX5G, & AmpworksG Modeling Signal Processors
Boss DS-1 (Rectifier Tri-Gain Plus Mod); CS-3 (Opto Plus Mod); SD-1 Super (GT Mod); GE-7 (Plus Mod)
Fender PT-100 Tuner
E.H. Big Muff Pi (US)
S.D. Pickup Booster
Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
Alesis NanoVerb
ART Tube MP Studio (OPA2604 Op Amps) (On Champion 30)
Behringer NR100 & OD100
It surely is something like that.Originally Posted by WackyT
I had the volume up & yes it is the B on the 7th fret of the 6th string & the B on the 2nd fret of the 5th string. Of any guitar I played.
A springy, buzzy, rattle.
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Before you send it back or take the reverb tank apart try checking the tank's mounting screws. They may be too loose or too tight. It's hard to be specific as either case could cause a rattle.
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If they notice that I've done that will it void the warranty?Originally Posted by markb
I was hoping that they'd have a local repair shop that was authorized for warranty service.
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Sure will... and if you send it back, you won't get a replacement because they sold out AND product has been discontinued.Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard
That's why I didn't want to send it back. I wanted to get it serviced.Originally Posted by Rocket
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Agreed!
Didn't you get a warranty service locator card with the amp?
Nope. I got a warranty card (but I registered online) with no service locator info. They do give a German phone number & an email address. I'll send them an email with some pitchforks in it.Originally Posted by Rocket
I shudder to think what Strum would email them...or Warren.
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http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/register.phpWe warrant that this product is free from defects in material or workmanship at the time of manufacture. This warranty is valid only in accordance with our warranty conditions from the date of purchase for the period indicated above.
In the event that this product requires servicing, contact an authorized Hughes & Kettner dealer. He will provide the required service and has all spare parts in stock.
Guitars (All Lefty): Fender MIM Wine Red Telecaster
Washburn D10SCELHBK
Greg Bennett (Samick) Avion AV3/LH/CS
Franken-Strat (Maple Neck / Black Body & Pickguard / 2-Point Tremolo / GFS Alnico Single-coil Pups / Gold Hardware)
2 Fullerton Standard Strats; Sunburst w/ GFS Overwound P'ups and Black w/ GFS Lil Killer Rail 'Buckers
Fullerton Deluxe Dreadnought
Amp: Blackheart BH1HS Killer Ant Half Stack (Bitmo Ant Eater Kit)
Crate V18-112 (Goodsell RGM Speaker / Accutronics Tank / Switch R4 - R10 Mod)
Pignose G40V (Jensen MOD Speaker / DC Heater Mod / Pentode:Triode Switch)
Fender Champion 30 Reverb (Accutronics Tank / Jensen MOD Speaker)
Speaker Cab: Lopo 1x12 Tweed Convertible w/ Eminence GB128 Speaker
Pedals: Korg ToneWorks AX1000G, AX5G, & AmpworksG Modeling Signal Processors
Boss DS-1 (Rectifier Tri-Gain Plus Mod); CS-3 (Opto Plus Mod); SD-1 Super (GT Mod); GE-7 (Plus Mod)
Fender PT-100 Tuner
E.H. Big Muff Pi (US)
S.D. Pickup Booster
Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
Alesis NanoVerb
ART Tube MP Studio (OPA2604 Op Amps) (On Champion 30)
Behringer NR100 & OD100
Thanks WackyT.Originally Posted by WackyT
That's the online form that I used, but didn't notice the dealer search tab. It tiurns out that the best local music store (about 20 minutes away) is an authorized service center!!
That's better than I hoped.
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