Valve Sr

**Rocket** · July 28th, 2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by just strum

And to prove Rocket right (oh, it bothers me just to write it)

When has it ever been otherwise?

**just strum** · July 28th, 2008, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket

When has it ever been otherwise?

Don't make this any harder for me.

**tot_Ou_tard** · July 28th, 2008, 08:24 PM

So it'll have tube reverb...very interesting!

Can someone with experience tell me the difference in tone between tube & spring reverb?

How do you think this compares with the H&K Tube Edition 20 that I just bought.

I have to decide whether to keep it & have the reverb fixed under warranty or send it back to Music123.

**Bloozcat** · July 29th, 2008, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard

So it'll have tube reverb...very interesting!

Can someone with experience tell me the difference in tone between tube & spring reverb?

How do you think this compares with the H&K Tube Edition 20 that I just bought.

I have to decide whether to keep it & have the reverb fixed under warranty or send it back to Music123.

Spring reverb can be either tube driven or driven by solid state circuity. Tube driven reverb, much as with tube driven amplification in general, is warmer, thicker, deeper, and more organic sounding. Warm vs. sterile. Natural sounding vs. artificial that tries to sound natural. To the ear, tube driven reverb sounds much more natural. There are many solid state reverb units out there. Some sound pretty good, others awful. One thing they all seem to have in common, is in the way they all try to emulate tube driven spring reverb. That ought to tell you something right there...

**tot_Ou_tard** · July 29th, 2008, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Bloozcat

Spring reverb can be either tube driven or driven by solid state circuity. Tube driven reverb, much as with tube driven amplification in general, is warmer, thicker, deeper, and more organic sounding. Warm vs. sterile. Natural sounding vs. artificial that tries to sound natural. To the ear, tube driven reverb sounds much more natural. There are many solid state reverb units out there. Some sound pretty good, others awful. One thing they all seem to have in common, is in the way they all try to emulate tube driven spring reverb. That ought to tell you something right there...

Thanks Blooz, I was unaware that tube-driven reverb used springs...I guess that I thought that spring reverb was somehow string driven.

Whatever "driven" might mean.

**just strum** · July 29th, 2008, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by tot_Ou_tard

Whatever "driven" might mean.

usually associated with "to madness"

**WackyT** · July 29th, 2008, 07:51 AM

The spring reverb needs amplification before being mixed in with the main audio. Solid state reverb, such as in my Fender amp, uses an op amp to amplify, while tube reverb uses a tube to amplify.

**tot_Ou_tard** · July 29th, 2008, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by just strum

usually associated with "to madness"

& also usually a very short drive.

Thanks WackyT that makes sense.

**oldguy** · August 8th, 2010, 11:20 AM

Resurrected this old thread, since the Valve Sr. does indeed now exist and is available.
The Jet City 20H has been getting plenty of attention, but this 6v6 powered head from Epi is worth a look as well.
Here's one of the better reviews, IMO.

marnold*** · August 8th, 2010, 12:15 PM

Looks like it should be a nice upgrade from the Junior. Sweetwater said it has four pre-amp tubes, which would have made me thought it'd have more gain. It actually has three and one of them is for the reverb, so that explains that. Found a gut shot here:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...d.php?t=635300

The only thing I could really tell from the gut shots is that the one transformer didn't look anything like the size of the ones in my Jet City.

**LeadedEL84** · August 8th, 2010, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by oldguy

Resurrected this old thread, since the Valve Sr. does indeed now exist and is available.
The Jet City 20H has been getting plenty of attention, but this 6v6 powered head from Epi is worth a look as well.
Here's one of the better reviews, IMO.

The amp sounds great. It's a perfect match with a Strat. Speaking of the Strat-what kind of strat was that? The fretboard inlays looked like saturn with the fancy 12th fret inlay.

**hooch1** · September 4th, 2010, 08:28 AM

I had a Jet City, now I have the Valve Sr. I really like the tone of the Sr better. I think build quality goes to the JC but the Sr is more versatile with more clean headroom. It also goes better with single coils than the JC. The one major drawback is the reverb sucks. But I don't use much reverb.

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