The Cost of the Other Gas

[Glacies]

INEEL, or now the Idaho Nation Laboratory. It is near Arco, Idaho, and between the Sun Valley area and Idaho Falls and Pocatello, etc. on the eastern side of the state. Basically, it is in the desert and Snake River Plain, south of the central Idaho mountains. Waste was buried years ago during the Cold War. Here is a report that discusses the area: http://academic.emporia.edu/schulmem...20Aquifer.html

The Idaho Department of Environmental Quality recognizes and discusses the situation here. http://www.deq.state.id.us/

Click on the INL oversight link on the left to see the info. There was a big settlement for cleanup between Idaho and the Feds back in about '95 that has been in play ever since.

Here is a newspaper article from Salt Lake City discussing the cleanup; http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,595108902,00.html

Here is info on Hanford, in Washington State. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site#cite_note-44
It is an even bigger problem.

Basically, none of it indicates that those in charge have cleaned up the old messes, or have fully committed to doing so. Future waste could be handled better I suppose, but the history causes me to question the credibility of promises made.

Damn....


I'm not sure I caught in those links who's waste it is (just skimmed them) but I'm not sure it's a commercial waste. That is a serious problem and I really hope they can get it figured out fast without anymore negative environmental impact.

What a mess.

We do have to really learn how to properly handle this stuff and it's a shame some of the past mistakes can stay with us for so long.

[just strum]

This weeks gas report from Northern Ohio - $1.75

Filled up and went out and got kerosene so I could work in the garage to put the plow on the tractor. We have snow heading this way and they were talking 4" to 6" here and a foot up by work (I hope I get this other job so I can stay the hell away from the snow belt).

[Gil Janus]

Central Vermont - $2.24.

[R_of_G]

It's down to $2.02 at some stations around here.

[Dreadman]

$2.29 Concord, NH
$1.89 Dallas, TX

[street music]

We finally are at 1.99 a gal, other parts of the state are around 1.85.

[player***]

are you all ready for this? Saturday a family member filled up for 1,69.9 Sunday I filled up at the same place for 1,49.9 and it is predicted to go lower.almost getting back to the 80's or so it would seem

[oldguy]

St. Joseph and Kansas City MO, 1.49 a gal.
Independence, MO, $1.34.............

[just strum]

St. Joseph and Kansas City MO, 1.49 a gal.
Independence, MO, $1.34.............

Holy crap!!!

The best I've spotted around here is $1.699

If the US and the World is going to hell, it won't cost as much to drive there.

[just strum]

Well, now that gas is at about $1.50 to $1.60 per gallon an article in the local paper noted that sales of pick-ups and SUV are up and fuel efficient car sales are down when compared to May of this year.

Live and Learn - I guess not.

[R_of_G]

So has anybody else experienced the "cash only" prices advertised on the signs at their local gas stations? I find this both annoying and incredibly deceptive.

Basically, the way I look at it is that the price should be the price however one is paying for it. I understand that there are "merchant fees" for businesses that accept credit or debit cards, but my answer to that is either don't accept them, or just live with it like anybody else in any other business has to.

Can anyone tell me another industry where there is more than one price depending on the method of payment? I'm not saying there isn't, only that I've not experienced it. I went grocery shopping this morning and wasn't asked how I was paying before I was told the total price. We ordered a pizza last night and weren't asked how we were paying before being given a total. It should be no different for gas stations. I see it as a form of bait and switch.

[Spudman***]

We were at $1.39 for a couple of days and now the same stations are at $1.47. Hmmm.

[just strum]

We were at $1.39 for a couple of days and now the same stations are at $1.47. Hmmm.

It's strange how that works and I've yet to hear a real defining reason for it.

Example of price change and variance.

for the past two weeks or more the stations in the center of town (usually running a couple cents more than the stations a little further away) were about $1.57 to $1.59, but the stations near work (40 miles north) were at $1.89 to $1.99. A couple of days ago the stations in town jumped up to $1.69, the stations near work went down to $1.63.

The best offer of the price variance that I heard is you are paying the price based on the last time the stations tanks are filled up, combined with what they anticipate they will pay on the next fill up. That is the only reason that seems to have some merit when it comes to the variance in price in the same region.

As for people starting to buy SUV's again, they must have short memories. Understandable if you need one (family size, work...), but other than that, I don't see the need for them today. The only other thing is the possible incentives being offered.

[Gil Janus]

Central Vermont - $2.24.

The above quote is from Nov 24th - it is now the 13th of December and gas is at $1.63 in Central Vermont.

That's a drop of 61 cents in just 20 days or 3 cents a day more or less.

Gil

[just strum]

The above quote is from Nov 24th - it is now the 13th of December and gas is at $1.63 in Central Vermont.

That's a drop of 61 cents in just 20 days or 3 cents a day more or less.

Gil

A couple of months ago they (media) was saying it could hit $5.00, the other day they were talking about $1.00 per gallon by early next year. The media and their ability to work up the public.

[peachhead***]

I paid 1.45 the other night; I think that is about the best it's gotten around here.
I read the 1.00/gallon article and just shook my head.

[sumitomo]

The gas prices my be comming down but the cost of oil is still going up.I run a repair shop and it is 28 bucks for a case of quarts,26 two months before and 24 a few before that.Sumi