If you see a 'Vintage SG' like this one...

[wingsdad]

Call the cops.

A new 'vintage music' store opened in town a little while ago, so I finally stopped in to see what the buzz was yesterday am. Used LP's and Vintage amps and guitars.

Hmmm...spotted this, so I went back to my car to grab my spycam:



Check out the logo:


Gibson never used that logo on any guitars from the the period. That's one clue it's fake.

Here's more....check out where the strap button is, let alone the BS bolt-on neck:



Finally, I jotted down the s/n that was indeed embossed on the back of the head. Seemed legit, with it's 8 digits in Gibson's mysterious date code convention:


82590580. That number today would make it made in Nashville on the 259th day of 1980. But in the 60's, they actually ran 8 digit 3's like this one... only NONE started with 825.

The owner wasn't in. I wanted to ask what he wants for it to see what the game is.

I'd offer him 30 bucks for the Grover keys and the knobs, take them off, and let him keep the rest to put in his wood burning stove.

[mrmudcat]

There was a similiar style logo like that on some cheaper 80's guitars and also some bolt ons were made in the wacky 80's on some cheaper gibby's(invader ,challenger?????)

Just saying!!

[hubberjub***]

Gibson used a bolt on neck with that style logo on th Sonex 180s I think. I have never seen a bolt on SG style from gibson though.

[mrmudcat]

Yea the sonex was one of those wacky ones.There were some others.The sg above ,I have no clue but was just stating stuff Wings most likely knows already :

[mechanic]

Did Gibson ever use 3 screws for holding on the truss rod cover on their SG's?

[Plank_Spanker]

Did Gibson ever use 3 screws for holding on the truss rod cover on their SG's?

Nope - two screws front and back.

[ShortBuSX]

Looks like it could be a Gibson Baldwin Student series

[wingsdad]

Yea the sonex was one of those wacky ones.There were some others.The sg above ,I have no clue but was just stating stuff Wings most likely knows already :

Don't know that much about Gibsons other than the 'mainstream' ones I've had - 330, Melody Maker, LP's, 335, Special, Junior, BluesHawk. Have borrowed & played but never had an SG. What I know about Gibson and Epiphone serialization and logos comes from references like Blue Book and The Gibson Guitar Book.

Don't know jack-shinola 'bout Sonex, Baldwin student models, etc., etc.

That logo and the location of the strap button smack in the middle of the neck behind the 15th or 18th fret? Just looks like a cheezy fake, but I'm sure I'm wrong. If I get to talk to the store's owner/guitar guru, I'll find out, though.

[Ch0jin]

Ooh a mystery! I'm hanging out to find out what happens!

Also, all fakery aside, is that a massive crack evident in the shot from behind?

[wingsdad]

Not a crack, just the camera flash hi-liting the joints of what looked to me like a 5-piece body, like it did with the headstock's pieces. The finish is very thin, like an aged nitrocell finish would be.

This shop actually had quite a few interesting used guitars & amps. A red 60's Gretsch 'Monkees' model. An '88 or so burst Fender MIJ Strat. An MIJ Takamine NEX body 12. A white tolex'd Mesa Boogie 1x12, a couple of silver-face Fender Twins. And surprise of surprises, they carry new stuff, notably, they're actually a listed dealer for hard-to-find Orange Amps, with a couple of the English amps and heads besides the economy Asian 'Crush' models.

The shop's main business, though, is it's a Tatoo & Body Piercing 'Parlor'.:

I kid you not.

[mrmudcat]

I hope to have a wooden or crete skate bowl(pool) and a tattoo piercing place in my studio.Among a few other things :

[markb]

RUN AWAY! It looks to me like a generic Japanese copy of the 70's with a fake decal.

[Iago]

Things like that make me sick.

That reminds me of the Squier Standard Strat I`ve seen today listed as a Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Pro.

Sorry for sticking Fenders in here, but.. if you are curious to take a look at it..

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/M...caster-pro-_JM

Now Google a for "real" CS Strat Pro (or check eBay), and see how many differences you can point ... there`s a quickly-growing thread about this one in a forum I`m a moderator. I`m glad many people are constantly going there and pointing the facts to the seller/scammer.

[just strum]

Some logos

http://www.gibson.com/press/logos200...asp#g_original