Pine? :
Have you heard? The Classic Vibe is getting raves like crazy. It's $299 and apparently of VERY good quality. It might a good idea to get one soon, since it's now selling like hotcakes and what happened to another guitar that sold like hotcakes and was cheap (Squier '51) ?? Discontinued!
People are saying it's as good as any American Fender (heard it from several sources), and of course way, way better than the ol Squier '51.
Who's getting one?
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In comparison to the Squier Standard Telecaster:
- the body is made of pine
- the neck is tinted to look vintage
- the pickups are different
- the bridge has brass saddles
Specs:
* Body: Pine
* Finish: Polyester
* Neck: 1-Piece Maple, Modern C Shape
* Fingerboard: Maple, 9.5 (241 mm)
* Frets: 21, Medium Jumbo
* Scale Length: 25.5 (648 mm)
* Nut Width: 1.65 (42 mm)
* Hardware: Chrome
* Tuning Keys: Vintage style tuning machines
* Bridge: Vintage style Tele© bridge plate w/brass barrel saddles
* Pickguard: 1-ply black
* Neck pickup: Custom Telecaster pickup (AlNiCo III)
* Bridge pickup: Custom Telecaster pickup (AlNiCo III)
* Pickup switching: 3-Position Blade Position 1. Bridge Pickup, Position 2. Bridge and Neck Pickups, Position 3. Neck Pickup
* Controls: Volume, Tone
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Pine? :
Pine, yes. I have never played a guitar with pine body. I heard it sounds really good. Anyone know more?
Oh, I realized there is also a Classic Vibe Stratocaster! Man, this could lead to two (!) new guitars!
See the Squier website:
http://www.squierguitars.com/products/
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I've had mine for a couple of weeks now.
Briefly, everything you've heard is true. It's very nearly identical to the MIM 50s Classic -- in fact, I had been planning to buy one of those when this thing came out. Differences include that lovely resonant pine body, a flatter fretboard radius, brass saddles (the MIM has stainless steel), big wide frets. All of which make the Squier more desirable imho. The pickups are Alnico 3; to my ear they sound like everything a Tele should sound like. Lots of true spank and shimmer.
Two truly cool things about this axe: first, the setup was spot-on, right out of the box. I haven't had to adjust anything. There's some speculation on TDPRI that the factory is plekking them. Second, the pickups are DEAD QUIET. Even with a fair amount of gain there's no hum. It flies in the face of reason, but I'm not complaining.
These instruments evidently represent an effort to bring back the glory days of the 80s-era Squiers, and I think they've succeeded amazingly.
Last edited by Ro3b; July 25th, 2008 at 08:28 AM.
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Arrrrgh! Don't do this to me guys. I'm trying to behave.
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Ha! Tele-ish now inbound.
I think we have a winner.... and Spud's castle is going to need room for yet another Squire (haha - what a pun!) to serve the mighty Sir Spud Knight of Shiny Geetars!
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When I was frequenting the TDPRI, it seems that a number of guys over there were building pine Teles with great success. I don't know that the tonal aspects are.
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The Squire Tele (same as yours, Robert) that I had was made from a wood (I forget the name, begins with an 'A") that was described as essentially an Asian pine. Maybe it's that same wood and they're calling it pine since no one knows what the heck that other wood is by it's name...?
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And I still want this guitar - it is at the top of my GAS list.
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Alder or Ash Body?Originally Posted by tjcurtin1
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Originally Posted by wingsdad
Wings ,Trivia: what was the first nocaster/tele made of?????:
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Doesn't Arlo West play those PineCasters? Sounds pretty good to me.
Dunno, but the grain that I can see through the finish on my guitar looks like your basic piney kind of pine.The Squire Tele (same as yours, Robert) that I had was made from a wood (I forget the name, begins with an 'A") that was described as essentially an Asian pine. Maybe it's that same wood and they're calling it pine since no one knows what the heck that other wood is by it's name...?
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tick tick....Time zone lag here from the Left coast, muddy. But you picked up why I went :Originally Posted by mrmudcat
Pine. :
1949 prototype #1 was a pine body. #2 proto was ash. I think it was built to be the Esquire first, with 1 pup, then the Broadcaster (to be the nocaster, thanks to Gretsch) added the 2nd pup.
EDIT: There were reasons why Leo ditched pine for ash at the proto stage. His goal with his first solid body guitar was to make a durable, easy to maintain and repair guitar that could take a lickin' from gigging country-western pickers. Pine proved too soft a wood, dented too easily, was too difficult to maintain uniform body size cuts (no cnc back then) to fit the bolt on necks in the pockets tightly, consistently for mass Model T type prodction, and didn't give the bright sustain he wanted, to emulate that which he was getting from his lap steels built with Doc Kauffman. Ash solved those issues, and also, since the choice of finish, like the Model T, was 'any color you want, as long as it's natural', had more consitent grain patterns and took the finish better.
So...while this is a guitar 'everyone' is raving about and is probably really good, the 'Fender Purist' (as in: Leo Fender, not Fender The Brand Only) in me wonders: this isn't the guitar that Leo invented, it's more like the one he rejected, so it's innacurate and a misnomer to classify it as a 'vintage vibe'. But that's just me, it's my opinion, and I'm sure that's a mighty unpopular position to take. Sorry.
Last edited by wingsdad; July 26th, 2008 at 10:15 AM.
What sealed the deal for me was when a guy who works at the factory in China where these guitars are made turned up on TDPRI to talk about them. The people who are making these things are evidently pretty psyched about them. It shows.
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Sorry for being a dolt... what is TDPRI?Originally Posted by Ro3b
ICFIO!
http://www.tdpri.com/Originally Posted by Rocket
I didn't know either, had to google tdpri
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Ahhh... I obviously gotta get a Fender for the stable!
What????? No Fender? Everyone should have at least one!Originally Posted by Rocket
Those Teles are a major source of GAS. The Strats look great, too. I would have bought one of those if they had been around when I got my MIM.
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