Quote Originally Posted by Suhnton
See that's the thing. I think Meshuggah are quite brutal, but "heavy", I'm not too sure. I'm an old fart, but to my mind, heavy means "slow and plodding".
Yep, I see (hear) what you mean. I remember in the mid-70's hearing early Black Sabbath as a kid and thought that was as heavy as it could get. It even scared me some!

For (semi)slow and plodding, I'd lean toward my favorite sludge metal band, Mastodon. "Iron Tusk" gets nice N heavy at 1:30 into the song.