Chorus or Distortion for your first effects. They tend to be the easiest to use. However my first was an Octaver!!!
I have a Flexline III XL with the short board Pedal.
Now I want to start getting some pedals outside of the shortboard.
What do you guys suggest? I know bass pedals pretty good but Guitar pedals
I am clueless.
Maxi...................
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Guitars: 2010 American Special HSS Strat, 2010 CIC Squire CV ThinLine Tele, & 2006 MIM FSR Strat.
Basses: 1979 Peavey T-40, 2007 Ibanez SR 500, 2013 Ibanez SR375F, 2013 CIJ Fender Geddy Lee Jazz Bass, 2014 Sadowsky Will Lee VI, & 2014 Sadowsky Will Lee Metro V
Amps: Mesa Boogie BASS STRATEGY:Eight:88, Aguliar DB 4X12, Augilar DB 751, Genz Benz CTR500-210T/Focus 1X15 CAB, Fender Hot Rod Deville 410, VHT Deliverance 60/VHT 2X12 fat Bottom Cab, & VOX DA20
Effects: Boss ME-25, MXR Custom Baddass 78, MXR Custom Baddass modified O.D., Vox Joe Satriani Satchurator, MXR Phase 90, MXR Bass Chorus Deluxe/Octave Deluxe/Bass Compressor/Envelope Filter/, Way Huge Pork Loin
Chorus or Distortion for your first effects. They tend to be the easiest to use. However my first was an Octaver!!!
DVM's Rabid Rodent (ProCo RAT clone) or his Zonkin' Yellow Screamer overdrive pedal.
I use my home built (BYOC) versions of these pedals in various combinations constantly, and create some incredible tones I thought I'd never be able to make before. Of course, that's with an amp that has reverb, delay, and slap-back onboard.
Last edited by Tig; January 27th, 2010 at 06:20 PM.
Guitar: Gibson SG Standard Natural Burst, Squier CV 50's Tele, Hell Guitars No. 2, Squier CV 50's Strat, Reverend Club King 290, Taylor 522e 12-Fret mahogany,
Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass Short Scale
Amp: Fender Super Champ X2 Head, Egnater Tweaker 15, Fender Mustang I, Acoustic B20 1x12 bass amp
Pedal: Budda Budwah wah, Wampler Ego Compressor, Electro-Harmonix Soul Food, Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive, Wampler Velvet Fuzz, Seven Sisters Eve Tremolo, TC Electronics Gravy Tri Chorus & Vibrato, Catalinbread Echorec, TC Electronic Alter Ego 2 Delay, Hardwire Supernatural Ambient Verb, MXR Carbon Copy, Catalinbread RAH, Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker, BYOC Mouse 2.0 Distortion, BYOC Boost/OD-2
Maxi: Here is my take on pedals. My first pedal was a DOD tube driver. At the time I had a SS amp and wanted some tubey sound. I then went to a Tube amp and decided on a BD2 by boss. Then a DS1, and so on and so forth. I always didn't like the ambient noise and wasn't really liking the tones.
Then I discovered Fulltone pedals. They are a little pricey but when you take into consideration the number of 100 dollar pedals you buy and don't use I found I bought them once and that was it. I have the Fulldrive II, OCD, Fat boost, and Mini deja vibe. I also have multi effect delay pedal the Boss DD20. With these pedal I can get just about any OD, boost, vibrato delay, thickness of tone, and to really get some Distortion I have a Radial Tonebone Hot British that has it's own 12AX7 tube.
The reason I mention Fulltone is they do the job, they are multi facetted and built like tanks. True bypass, so very quiet, and are professional grade.
Check out their website and listen to the samples.
You will find a lot of guys buy pedals and then send them out to be modified by Keely etc. No need with the Fulltones.
Just passing along a lot of experience.
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Guitars: 1968 Gibson SG, 2005 Gibson SG Standard, 2006 Gibson LP Classic Gold top, 2004 Epiphone Elitist LP Custom, 1996 Gibson Les Paul Standard. 2001 Epiphone Sheraton II, 2007 Epiphone G400.
Fender Strats: 1996 Fender 68 Reissue CIJ, 2008 Squier CV 50s, 2009 Squier CV 50s Tele Butterescotch Blonde
Amps: Blues Junior Special edition Jensen in Brown Tolex with Wheat front, 65 Deluxe Reverb reissue,1970 Sonax reverb by Traynor, Avatar Custom 2/12 Cabinet with Eminence Legend V1216 speakers,
2008 DSL100 Marshall Amp , Fender Super Champ XD,Fender Vibro Champ XD
Effects and Pedals: Fulltone Fulldrive II, Fulltone OCD, Fulltone Mini Deja Vibe, Fulltone Fat Boost, Dunlop Crybaby Wah, Boss DS1, Boss DD20 Giga Delay, Boss TU2 tuner, Boss BD2, Ibanez TS9 Tube screamer, Zoom 505. Radial tonebone hot british.
Hard to give a suggestion since you didn't mention what kind of sound you are after. Think about what type of sound you want to achieve. Then, decide on a pedal that creates that type of sound (chorus, delay, distortion, fuzz, wah, heavy metal distortion, reverb, flanger, phaser, etc... you get the idea).
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What's everyone's take on the "Bad Monkey" pedal? And what's most recommended for fuzz?
Electrics: '07 Gibson Les Paul Classic Antique, Oscar Schmidt OE40N Hollowbody aka. "Fat Girl"
Acoustic: Ibanez AEL20E-TRS
Bass: Ibanez GIO GSR200
Amplification: Marshall TSL JCM 2000 head & 1960a cab, Fender Hotrod Deluxe Silverface, Ibanez Soundwave SWX65
Effects: Boss Chorus, Bad Monkey, BSIABII, Rabid Rodent, Crybaby GCB-95, Rocktron Talk Box
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The general consensus is that the Bad Monkey is an awesome bang for your buck out there at $50. Overdrives your sound and adds some dirt if you want. It's 4 knobs create a lot of magic.
It's (the Monkey) a Tube Screamer with smarter tone controls. A very good pedal for the money. So are the Boss SD-1 and both the Danelectro Cool Cat drives if you're after a cheap overdriver.Originally Posted by mainestratman
Fuzz comes in so many flavours it's harder to answer. The Boss FZ-5 models a few classics and would be a good way to find out what kind of fuzz you like before committing to anything expensive.
For a do anything dirt pedal I find it hard to beat an old ProCo RAT. It takes a while to dial in due to highly interactive controls but can do anything from boost to fuzz with a nice tactile response from the guitar volume. DVM's Rabid Rodent is fine example of this circuit with some extras.
Electric: Fat strat > Korg PB > TS7 > DS1 > DD-20 > Cube 60 (Fender model)
Acoustic: Guitar > microphone > audience
Cool Cat Fuzz is one of the cheaper fuzzes out there, and pretty decent too.
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The Talent pedal.Sumi but their not cheap!
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Pedals/Voods Rodent/MXR carbon copy/Duncan Pickup booster/Ts9/Rat/ts10/Line 6 tone port uk2
Line 6 M13
Knowing what I know now after buying so many different pedals...in a heartbeat I'd by a Line 6 M13 or M9. The quest for tone and new sounds is never ending as you develop your guitar playing and each of theses pedals has so much to offer for an incredible bang to buck ratio. You wont be spending more money time and again looking for something. Instead you'll just go turn some knobs and have your new pedal right thee in front of you.
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On that note, I'll also go ahead and recommend the Boss ME series (ME-50 and ME-70). They can be found for pretty cheap, relatively speaking (I paid $170 on ebay for an ME-50), and they offer good effects with a very simple interface so that you can figure out what you like. Similar to the M13, but a bit less flexible (from what I understand of the M13, anyway), cheaper, and simpler.Originally Posted by Spudman
Guitars: Gibson LP Studio, MIA Fender Precision, Carvin C350Originally Posted by Spudman
Amps: Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Avatar B212 / Genzler 12-3, Acoustic B20
Pedals: Pod HD500X, Diamond Compressor, Tech 21 VT Bass, Sonic Research Turbo Tuner
I vote for the monkey- fairly cheap but very effective.
I'd agree with any of these, but the ones above (Bad Monkey, Dano transparent overdrive or drive, SD-1) will probably be the most cost effective.Originally Posted by markb
You have a flextone iii xl? You already have an awful lot of effects at your disposal, don't you? I guess one of those overdrives would be my recommendation if you want to venture into stompbox-land.
Guitars: Gibson LP Studio, MIA Fender Precision, Carvin C350Originally Posted by Spudman
Amps: Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Avatar B212 / Genzler 12-3, Acoustic B20
Pedals: Pod HD500X, Diamond Compressor, Tech 21 VT Bass, Sonic Research Turbo Tuner
I do apologize for hijacking the thread...
Before I was able to afford the amp I wanted, I was running a Fender 212 SS.. iffy distortion at best, but a super clean (and LOUD) clean channel, so I supplemented it with stompboxes (and eventually a Behringer V-Amp, which didn't work well at all on stage. Fortunately, I only had to use that setup for about a year, then I was able to get my Marshmallow, my failed distortion pedal experiments went on eBay.
The first pedal was a Boss DS-1, and I really did not like it at all... it was super noisy... but then again, I was running a single coil American Strat through it. I attempted to dial in a better sound my supplementing the 212R's distortion with the pedal, but it just kept getting worse.
Someone had touched on this earlier... decide what sound you're after... if you're in a more urban area than I am and have access to a GC or Sam Ash, take your guitar in, find your amp (or something close), and start experimenting with pedals.
I think once you find the base distortion sound you like, then you can start adding in fun stuff... I love my Chorus pedal... I have a Boss CH-1, and adding a hint of chorus, especially when I'm running clean, really adds to the tone.
I also have a Boss flanger, but almost never use it. It's basically just filling what would otherwise be an empty slot on my pedal board. I've experimented with it to no end, but really can't come up with any sort sound from it that I like, or would use on even a semi-regular basis... so to me, it's a "gimmick effect".
I like delay pedals, and have used both the Boss and Ibanez delay pedals.. they are both pretty much the same, to my ear... The only reason I had DD was to play "Welcome to the Jungle", but I know adding a little delay, especially during a solo, can add a depth to the overall sound.
The only other "effects" I use are my Crybaby GCB-95 wah pedal (if it's good enough for Hendrix, it's good enough for me.. lol) and my Rocktron talkbox (all the sound of a Golden Throat without the chance of blowing my head)...
Personally, the fewer things I have to remember to stomp on during a performance, the better... but I know some guitarists revel in having a zillion buttons to stomp... which is an artform all unto itself. :-)
As for taking my own advice of taking my guitar to a local store and test driving pedals... there is a distinct lack of retailers in this part of the Pine Tree State. :-)
Anyway, I jumped into this thread to ask about some "basic sound" pedals, the Bad Monkey and something else fuzzy.. thought input from folks who have used those types of pedals might help the OP on his quest.. although with a Line6, he should be more than well-off with different sounds and effects.
Cheers!
Electrics: '07 Gibson Les Paul Classic Antique, Oscar Schmidt OE40N Hollowbody aka. "Fat Girl"
Acoustic: Ibanez AEL20E-TRS
Bass: Ibanez GIO GSR200
Amplification: Marshall TSL JCM 2000 head & 1960a cab, Fender Hotrod Deluxe Silverface, Ibanez Soundwave SWX65
Effects: Boss Chorus, Bad Monkey, BSIABII, Rabid Rodent, Crybaby GCB-95, Rocktron Talk Box
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The Bad Monkey was my first, and is still a favorite. For the price of a used one, it is hard to beat. Given that, I would take a serious look at a M-9 or M-13 also. (Frankly, if I were starting out on pedals and wanted to go this route, I would go with the 13). It seems so flexible, and you get so much as a starting place. Tuner, looper, effects loop if you choose to get a special overdrive or some other pedal you want to include in the mix, and the combinations you can set up and change on the fly look really interesting, useful, and fun! So, either start easy and get a used Bad Monkey for like $25 or go for the M-13. That is my vote!
Steve Thompson
Sun Valley, Idaho
Guitars: Fender 60th Anniversary Std. Strat, Squier CVC Tele Hagstrom Viking Semi-hollow, Joshua beach guitar, Martin SPD-16TR Dreadnought
Amphs: Peavey Classic 30, '61 Fender Concert
Effects and such: Boss: DS-1, CE-5, NS-2 and RC20XL looper, Digitech Bad Monkey, Korg AX1G Multi-effects, Berhinger: TU100 tuner, PB100 Clean Boost, Line 6 Toneport UX2, Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi, DuhVoodooMan's Rabid Rodent Rat Clone, Zonkin Yellow Screamer Mk. II, MXR Carbon Copy Delay
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Hrmm... although.. if I had a Bad Monkey, that would give me clean grit, gritty, dirty and creamy lead....
See what you guys are doing to me? LOL
Electrics: '07 Gibson Les Paul Classic Antique, Oscar Schmidt OE40N Hollowbody aka. "Fat Girl"
Acoustic: Ibanez AEL20E-TRS
Bass: Ibanez GIO GSR200
Amplification: Marshall TSL JCM 2000 head & 1960a cab, Fender Hotrod Deluxe Silverface, Ibanez Soundwave SWX65
Effects: Boss Chorus, Bad Monkey, BSIABII, Rabid Rodent, Crybaby GCB-95, Rocktron Talk Box
Apparently everyone in AC/DC is a gnome too. - Reverend Rawk
DOUBLETAP - 'Northern Maine's Premier Blues Band'.
A used Bad Monkey is cheap GAS. For the price of say 6 premium coffee drinks, or 5 micro tap pints, you have a very useful tool.
Steve Thompson
Sun Valley, Idaho
Guitars: Fender 60th Anniversary Std. Strat, Squier CVC Tele Hagstrom Viking Semi-hollow, Joshua beach guitar, Martin SPD-16TR Dreadnought
Amphs: Peavey Classic 30, '61 Fender Concert
Effects and such: Boss: DS-1, CE-5, NS-2 and RC20XL looper, Digitech Bad Monkey, Korg AX1G Multi-effects, Berhinger: TU100 tuner, PB100 Clean Boost, Line 6 Toneport UX2, Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff Pi, DuhVoodooMan's Rabid Rodent Rat Clone, Zonkin Yellow Screamer Mk. II, MXR Carbon Copy Delay
love is the answer, at least for most of the questions in my heart. . .
- j. johnson
I might have to come home with one after school today then. :-)
Electrics: '07 Gibson Les Paul Classic Antique, Oscar Schmidt OE40N Hollowbody aka. "Fat Girl"
Acoustic: Ibanez AEL20E-TRS
Bass: Ibanez GIO GSR200
Amplification: Marshall TSL JCM 2000 head & 1960a cab, Fender Hotrod Deluxe Silverface, Ibanez Soundwave SWX65
Effects: Boss Chorus, Bad Monkey, BSIABII, Rabid Rodent, Crybaby GCB-95, Rocktron Talk Box
Apparently everyone in AC/DC is a gnome too. - Reverend Rawk
DOUBLETAP - 'Northern Maine's Premier Blues Band'.