Found a Tonelab SE for cheap...

[SuperSwede]

The VTX and the blue Tonelab pretty much have the same features BUT the ADxxVT amphs does not have a good line out sound due to the design that the line out comes before valvereactor (where all the mojo is happening). So if you plan to record with your valvetronix I would recommend the Tonelab.

The blue one does have S/Pdif digital out so you could always buy a USB audio interface.

[Duffy]

I have a Lexicon Omega that has midi and Spdif inputs on it and is a usb interface.

Would that Tonelab original blue unit be a good item to have? Does it have really good sounds? I wonder if it would sound good straight into my PA or from the Lexicon, monitoring into the PA, recording playback, etc.?

I have a Digitech RP350 with a usb or firewire that works good, but I bet the Tonelab is in another dimension.

Being that this tonelab is NOS, I think I can talk them down way below two bills, possibly.

Do you use regular rca cables for the S-pdif connectors? Would it be better to use the midi connectors or do you need even more software.

Also, should this NOS tonelab I am looking at come with a software cd or other accessories. They may have spaced some of the packaging out, I should know what is supposed to be there and ask them if they have the stuff, if such is the case. Even so, it is possible that the software would be so obsolete that it would be unusable on a Vista or Seven Windows system.

I wonder if Vox has updated software for the original tonelab if it indeed requires any?

This could be a problem with really old stuff: software drivers, etc.

It definitely looks like a really cool, high class item though. Maybe I'll play thru it today into a SuperSonic on the Vibrolux voice, vintage channel and see what it sounds like.

I might have to get one of those SuperSonic Fenders, they have a year old used blonde one for 775, mint. This is one nice amp if you haven't played one yet: Fender Pro Series. Vintage 30, a bunch of tubes, simple controls and input.

[marnold***]

The VTX and the blue Tonelab pretty much have the same features BUT the ADxxVT amphs does not have a good line out sound due to the design that the line out comes before valvereactor (where all the mojo is happening).

AFAIK this is has been remedied with the VTxx series.

[Duff]

I read that there were design elements improved on the VTxx series, possibly some of them going back to the recommendations that were given in that big report by the guy at the "patchtronix" forum.

Also there were a couple of ideas on how the line out should sound if I remember correctly. But the new design correction sounds like it is the way it should have been to begin with.

[Duff]

They have a used or NOS big blue Tonelab with twin expression pedals at the place that has the small blue one without a pedal. The small one without the pedal does not have Spdif outs on the back of it, just quarter inch jacks, stereo or mono, and midi in and out.

I didn't check out the big pedal board Tonelab but should see how much they want. It sits on a stack of fairly ratty looking used Peavey amps and such.

[SuperSwede]

AFAIK this is has been remedied with the VTxx series.

Well I have tried to record with my VT50, it sounds horrible. So unfortunately they still havent got it right.


Duffy, the tonelab has midi in/out so if you invest in a cheap usb midi adaptor you can use the Vox tonelab editor.

Here is a clip that I did for the fret back in 2006 when I still had my tonelab.
http://www.box.net/shared/j50n8xdvin (Modern Marshall + reverb)

http://www.box.net/shared/o5g62ldsgh (UK 80s (JCM800) +reverb).

Only guitar > tonelab > iMac.