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    Default rack setups?

    ive never quite understood these, but i know theyre versatile.

    if i bought say, an EL34 power amp, and a preamp, could i run

    Power Amp -> Preamp -> Cab?
    Guitars: Ibanez RG420EG, Harrier Mistral Ice White Tele
    Amps: Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 15R (w/ 8" Celestion), Marshall Valvestate Mk.I 8100 Head, Blackheart BH5H Head
    Cabs: Marshall 4x12 (4 x Celestion Pro 12")
    FX:Line 6 Floor POD, BOSS 7-band GE-7, BOSS Mega Distortion MD-2, Vox V847a Reissue Wah, Danelectro Cool Cat Drive

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    No. It'd work better wired:

    Preamp -> Power Amp -> Speaker
    Guitars (All Lefty): Fender MIM Wine Red Telecaster
    Washburn D10SCELHBK
    Greg Bennett (Samick) Avion AV3/LH/CS
    Franken-Strat (Maple Neck / Black Body & Pickguard / 2-Point Tremolo / GFS Alnico Single-coil Pups / Gold Hardware)
    2 Fullerton Standard Strats; Sunburst w/ GFS Overwound P'ups and Black w/ GFS Lil Killer Rail 'Buckers
    Fullerton Deluxe Dreadnought
    Amp: Blackheart BH1HS Killer Ant Half Stack (Bitmo Ant Eater Kit)
    Crate V18-112 (Goodsell RGM Speaker / Accutronics Tank / Switch R4 - R10 Mod)
    Pignose G40V (Jensen MOD Speaker / DC Heater Mod / Pentode:Triode Switch)
    Fender Champion 30 Reverb (Accutronics Tank / Jensen MOD Speaker)
    Speaker Cab: Lopo 1x12 Tweed Convertible w/ Eminence GB128 Speaker
    Pedals: Korg ToneWorks AX1000G, AX5G, & AmpworksG Modeling Signal Processors
    Boss DS-1 (Rectifier Tri-Gain Plus Mod); CS-3 (Opto Plus Mod); SD-1 Super (GT Mod); GE-7 (Plus Mod)
    Fender PT-100 Tuner
    E.H. Big Muff Pi (US)
    S.D. Pickup Booster
    Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
    Alesis NanoVerb
    ART Tube MP Studio (OPA2604 Op Amps) (On Champion 30)
    Behringer NR100 & OD100

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    ahh thats what i meant lol. obviously preamp first, that was dumb of me :
    Guitars: Ibanez RG420EG, Harrier Mistral Ice White Tele
    Amps: Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 15R (w/ 8" Celestion), Marshall Valvestate Mk.I 8100 Head, Blackheart BH5H Head
    Cabs: Marshall 4x12 (4 x Celestion Pro 12")
    FX:Line 6 Floor POD, BOSS 7-band GE-7, BOSS Mega Distortion MD-2, Vox V847a Reissue Wah, Danelectro Cool Cat Drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie
    ive never quite understood these, but i know theyre versatile.

    if i bought say, an EL34 power amp, and a preamp, could i run

    Power Amp -> Preamp -> Cab?

    It's pretty simple really. An amp only has three parts: preamp, power amp and power supply. Rackmount units have the preamp and power amp separate, each with their own built-in power supplies.

    You'd want to run: Preamp -> Power Amp -> Cab. You can also place an FX unit between the preamp and the power amp. For real kicks you can run stereo FX into a stereo power amp and a pair of speaker cabs for a stereo rig. I ran one for years.

    tung

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    hey guys, im normally not a fan of behringer stuff, but their hybrid preamp supposedly sounds good (youtube).

    anyone ever used an ultragain pro?

    http://www.dawsons.co.uk/acatalog/info_42827.html
    Guitars: Ibanez RG420EG, Harrier Mistral Ice White Tele
    Amps: Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 15R (w/ 8" Celestion), Marshall Valvestate Mk.I 8100 Head, Blackheart BH5H Head
    Cabs: Marshall 4x12 (4 x Celestion Pro 12")
    FX:Line 6 Floor POD, BOSS 7-band GE-7, BOSS Mega Distortion MD-2, Vox V847a Reissue Wah, Danelectro Cool Cat Drive

    Just another Rig Sig Jig, Dig?

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    That really isn't a guitar preamp. It is more for warming up digital sources. It doesn't have a dirty channel for distorted playing.



    It works okay, but you'd still have to use a pedal for heavier sounds.

    Also, I'd be surprised if the 12AX7 actually did anything other than sit there and look good. Many times, circuits like that only have the vacuum tube there for show and it isn't actually in the signal path.

    tung





    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezjunkie
    hey guys, im normally not a fan of behringer stuff, but their hybrid preamp supposedly sounds good (youtube).

    anyone ever used an ultragain pro?

    http://www.dawsons.co.uk/acatalog/info_42827.html

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    I'm a recent convert to rack rigs now that there's a processor/ preamp that plays and sounds like a real tube amp and makes me extremely happy. The cool thing about them is that you can build your sound just about any way you want to - just add money.

    Guitars: 2008 Gibson SG Classic, 2006 Gibson Les Paul Standard LE, 2002 Gibson SG Supreme, 2001 Gibson Les Paul Studio Plus, 1996 Les Paul Studio Gem, American Deluxe Double Fat Strat, Bluesville "Super" Strat Copy, MIK Fender "Limited Edition" Tele, JD Bluesville "Night Pilot", Yamaha AES 820, Steinberger Spirit GT Pro, Taylor 355CE, Ovation 1897 Adamas, Ovation CC057 Celebrity

    Amps: Axe FX centered rack rig, Mesa 4x12 cab. Germino Club 40, Johnson JM150 Millennium, Johnson JM250 Millennium, Gibson Titan Medalist Frankenstein.

    Effects: Tonebone Trimode, EH Holy Grail, Boss CH-1, Dunlop Crybaby Classic, Framptone Amp Switcher, THD Hot Plate, Yamaha AG Stomp Acoustic Processor, Boss BCB-60 Pedal Board.

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    Now that is the rack setup of doom. : :

    tung

    Quote Originally Posted by Plank_Spanker
    I'm a recent convert to rack rigs now that there's a processor/ preamp that plays and sounds like a real tube amp and makes me extremely happy. The cool thing about them is that you can build your sound just about any way you want to - just add money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tunghaichuan
    Now that is the rack setup of doom. : :

    tung
    Thanks, Tung!

    I absolutely LOVE the sounds I get from it. The Axe FX is amazing!
    Guitars: 2008 Gibson SG Classic, 2006 Gibson Les Paul Standard LE, 2002 Gibson SG Supreme, 2001 Gibson Les Paul Studio Plus, 1996 Les Paul Studio Gem, American Deluxe Double Fat Strat, Bluesville "Super" Strat Copy, MIK Fender "Limited Edition" Tele, JD Bluesville "Night Pilot", Yamaha AES 820, Steinberger Spirit GT Pro, Taylor 355CE, Ovation 1897 Adamas, Ovation CC057 Celebrity

    Amps: Axe FX centered rack rig, Mesa 4x12 cab. Germino Club 40, Johnson JM150 Millennium, Johnson JM250 Millennium, Gibson Titan Medalist Frankenstein.

    Effects: Tonebone Trimode, EH Holy Grail, Boss CH-1, Dunlop Crybaby Classic, Framptone Amp Switcher, THD Hot Plate, Yamaha AG Stomp Acoustic Processor, Boss BCB-60 Pedal Board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunghaichuan
    Now that is the rack setup of doom. : :
    Axen: Jackson DK2M, Fender Deluxe Nashville Telecaster, Reverend Warhawk 390, Taylor 914ce, ESP LTD Surveyor-414
    Amphen: Jet City JCA22H and JCA12S cab, Carvin X-60 combo, Acoustic B20
    Effecten: "Thesis 96" Overdrive/Boost (aka DVM OD2), Hardwire DL-8 Digital Delay/Looper, DigiTech Polara Reverb, DigiTech EX-7 Expression Factory and CF-7 Chorus Factory, Danelectro CF-1 Cool Cat Fuzz
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