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    I have to question Gibson's recent marketing and product development practices over the last year or so. They keep coming up with some instant fail guitars, like...

    The recent Gibson Hendrix guitar mega fail:


    The $4000 robot guitar:


    The really good acid induced Zoot Suit SG:


    The Raw Power series:


    I'll stop before I loose my stomach contents!
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    I dont usually get involve in these type of discussions but ill add my 2 cents.

    The robot guitar was a failure why???? It was innovative has helped with some of my limited motion/mobility and can tune to other tunings fairly quick and can intonate itself. I have yet to have any problems period..how can one say it was an instant failure if they have not owned or atleast played one...nuff said

    I do see a potential problem in the future with the electronics under the saddle /bridge do to sweat......but then ill just frakenize it



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    Tig minus the fist pic (hendrix) here lies the problem with innovation of say gibby or fender. The traditionalists will hate every new model or any new version of an old design.Some like me are open to various versions of the ol stand by's. Some new models reverse v,the eye are appaling in my opinion but the raw sg/lp I will purchase soon.I like a maple neck
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmudcat
    The robot guitar was a failure why????
    It was a business failure. I know it takes a few swings to hit a home run, but they are striking out a bit too much lately. -The O/P was about Gibson laying off employees due to business slowing down, etc. I brought up a few of their recent developements that have failed to sell, which I believe is a big reason Gibson isn't doing well. As in, they've done it to themselves.

    It isn't just about traditionalists not liking newer designs (nothing will please some peep's!), but consumers not liking what Gibson is pushing out the door in general with their latest offerings. When an economy is tight, you have to be wise in what you develop and produce. I feel that Gibson hasn't done their research before designing and producung some of the newer products. They appear out of touch and misguided. I'll bet they do a little re-org at the top of some of their departments soon.

    The Dark Fire concept is actually pretty cool, but how much market is there for it at that price?
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    Gibson's HD.6X-PRO Digital Guitar and the Gibson Robot Guitar have been some of the most innovative products to come down the pipe in 70+ years. What factual supportive evidence is there to backup the statement it was a buisiness failure(amount of sales) The zoot and the raw listed as instant failures yet they are new to market and I find it presumptive to say they are failures(yet)

    Anyways im out as I find these discussions go round and round full circle.

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    This Gibson announcement was made in march???


    All replies are of my opinion nothing more or less and no disrespect is/was intended
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    I'll just add this and shut up:

    In today's world, money, the bottom line, has become more important than people...human beings. Money has become the be all and end all. Everything and everyone else is secondary. That's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigG
    In today's world, money, the bottom line, has become more important than people...human beings. Money has become the be all and end all. Everything and everyone else is secondary.
    In today's world? You should read Iggy Pop's favourite book "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Edward Gibbon.

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