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Two...two....two Tele's in one!
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    That's a killer idea, DVM!

    Kinda changes Classic Vibe to ConVertible, don't it!


    Sounds also like a great idea for a prepackaged kit. With a quick change system for the bridge pup to a single coil size 'bucker, Twang to Rock in minutes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastrophe
    That's a killer idea, DVM!

    Kinda changes Classic Vibe to ConVertible, don't it!


    Sounds also like a great idea for a prepackaged kit. With a quick change system for the bridge pup to a single coil size 'bucker, Twang to Rock in minutes!

    Not quite that simple Kat, since the bridge pup is not connected to the pick guard on a Tele but mounts through the bridge itself. Unless you get a hardtail strat bridge then you can body mount the bridge pup. DVM's idea of a quick connect harness is cool especially with that mini bucker set up split the coils too so you get neck bucker, neck single and standard tele bridge. Lots of tonal options there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazz
    Not quite that simple Kat, since the bridge pup is not connected to the pick guard on a Tele but mounts through the bridge itself. Unless you get a hardtail strat bridge then you can body mount the bridge pup.

    Gotcha, Kazz. I was kinda brainstorming, which turned into a brain fart. Gotta hate it when that happens.

    DVM's idea is just too cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazz
    DVM's idea of a quick connect harness is cool especially with that mini bucker set up split the coils too so you get neck bucker, neck single and standard tele bridge. Lots of tonal options there.
    Yup, I'm doing that as a part of this mod, too. Have an A500K push-pull pot coming along with the pickguard and mini-bucker. The coil-cut can be accomplished with a single extra connection through my "quick-connect" setup. Just solder a length of wire with one of the little male connectors to the two wires of a 4-conductor 'bucker that are pre-soldered & taped. The plug side of the quick connect is then wired to one of the middle lugs of the push-pull. You just connect the "pull" lug above it to ground, as shown in this humbucker coil-tap diagram on my web site:



    All you're really doing is putting a quick-connect in between the red-white wire solder joint and the push-pull switch. When you pull up on the pot knob, one coil is shorted to ground. The other continues to work, since you're just moving the ground connection point of that coil from one spot to another.

    EDIT 7/12/10:

    As mentioned two posts down from this one, the above method of shorting one of the two humbucker coils to ground was NOT useful in this case, due to the 4-way switch wiring to give the bridge and neck pickups in series at the fourth switch position. This wiring would cause the bridge pickup to be shorted to ground along with the one humbucker coil. Instead, the following alternative coil-cutting method was used, which shorts the other humbucker coil back on itself. The remaining coil stays "hot", passing its signal and the series bridge signal on to the volume pot. Diagram:

    Last edited by duhvoodooman; July 12th, 2010 at 08:08 AM. Reason: Corrected inaccurate info
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    So........uh....lol........how soon before you begin accepting our gits to do mods on them? I mean, you already are noted for your pedal mods/building....so it seems to me ( ) that modding gits is your next logical step. Just kidding......sort of.

    By the way Fretters, I bought DVM's Xaviere-820. He had already upgraded the pups to Alnico IIIs, changed the pots to 250s, and put in a push/pull to get the pups in series as well as the standard parallel. A sweet sounding Tele for sure with a great variety of sounds. She's a heavy sucker but for a wide-shouldered LOAD like me, it's no problemo.

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    Here's the scheme I will be using to wire up this mod for my CV '50s Tele. The new neck humbucker with be connected through a 4-wire "quick-connect", working as shown in the photo posted above. The four pickup wiring connections will be:
    • humbucker "hot" signal (to 4-way switch)
    • humbucker ground (to 4-way switch)
    • humbucker shield (to ground/back of vol pot)
    • humbucker soldered pair (to push-pull switch on tone pot)

    Wiring diagram:


    You may notice that the push-pull switch connects the soldered wire pair of the humbucker (i.e. where the two coils are connected in series) to the "hot" signal coming out of the 4-way switch into the volume pot. When the push-pull is engaged, this will cause one of the coils of the humbucker to be shorted back on itself, muting it, while the other coil continues to pass signal.

    Originally, I planned to connect the soldered pair to ground through the push-pull. But because of the bridge-neck-in-series wiring through the 4-way switch, this has the unintended effect of turning on the neck pickup whenever the switch is pulled up, irrespective of where the 4-way is set. It also kills the bridge-neck-in-series setting when active, since the bridge signal gets shunted to ground along with the one humbucker coil, so it ends up as a redundant neck coil-cut setting.

    I'm also going to switch the tone pot input connection from the volume pot input lug to the output (middle lug), a.k.a. "Gibson '50s style" tone pot wiring. This method markedly reduces treble loss when the volume control is rolled off. Good explanation of how that works HERE.

    The new pickguard, mini-bucker and push-pull pot are being delivered today, so I may dive into this tonight....
    Last edited by duhvoodooman; July 9th, 2010 at 07:43 PM. Reason: More info added.
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