Call me crazy but I downsided on wattage.

[hubberjub***]

So...to my question, you just yell at the drummer until they play softer? That seems to work OK with the two drummers I play with -- if everyone else is trying to work together, it makes the drummer look like a retard if they continue to play super-loud. Is that what you're getting at?

There are two categories into which all drummers fall: loud, and good. However, they are not mutually exclusive. A good drummer might be loud, but they have the sense and ability to reign in the volume to a point where they can blend with a band. A loud drummer, though they might have chops, lacks the ability to listen to other members of the band. I'll take a solid drummer who listens over a loud drummer with a lot of technique any day of the week.

[Andy]

sold my last "big amp" last year, a first issue 5150 combo, 60 watts and blisteringly loud at 9 oclock !...not to mention it weighs 80 lbs and did not have a great clean sound at all.. tho thats not what it was designed for anyway