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    I wish I was excited about it. The book began a massive obsession for me at age 11.

    However, after the amount of original material Jackson added to the LotR films (often at the expense of Tolkien's source material) knowing that this is somehow going to be two films suggests to me more of the same is coming.

    To clarify, I have no issue with Tolkien's material being cut, it's common practice in adaptations for source material to fall by the wayside to make a film fit into a time limit. However, I take massive exception to source material being cut so that a writer/director's own material can be added.

    That said, other people here are probably excited about the film so I won't continue to comment on this thread and ruin everyone else's fun. I'll just re-read the book for the billionth time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    The book began a massive obsession for me at age 11.

    Same here. 5th grade, our teacher read it aloud to us. Started a yearly obsession with the entire series for a long, long time. The issue for me when the Trilogy films were coming out were my mental images I had crafted for myself, based on book cover art, calendars and novelties that were available back then, etc. But fortunately, Jackson put included those original artists in a team of designers that made the look of the film fit eerily with my mental visions. Some slight differences, my forests were more western WA coastal looking than the NZ mountains to some extent, but basically was there.

    I did not like some of the cutting of the material, and did not like some of the supplemental material (Aragorn and Eowynn romance stuff) but was glad that the basic flavor of the books was mostly retained. Of course Jackson highlighted the battle stuff more than I would have preferred, but overall a good job. I am hoping for the same here. The scene in Bilbo's home as they are preparing to leave looks visually much as I had it in my head. I did not realize it was going to be two films. I think they can do the book in one. But, as I still read the books with my kids, and plan to start with my youngest daughter this year when we finish with the Potter books, I am confident I can keep the books in their treasured place, and enjoy Jackson's movie for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunvalleylaw View Post
    I did not like some of the cutting of the material, and did not like some of the supplemental material (Aragorn and Eowynn romance stuff) but was glad that the basic flavor of the books was mostly retained.
    For me, it was mostly Jackson's absolute character assassination of Faramir that sent me over the edge (like the edge he sent Aragorn over in that wolf-attack scene that never happened in any of the books). If Jackson's intent was to portray Faramir as just another Boromir, he should have just left Boromir alive. For me, it was Faramir that always stood out as one of the most compelling characters in the books. His absolute refusal without the slightest hesitation to take the ring freely offered to him by Frodo was striking. More powerful characters like Galadriel, Gandalf and Aragorn all admitted to or showed at least some level of temptation towards the ring. Faramir by contrast issued that line that always stuck with me about not picking it up if it lay by the side of the road. Jackson obliterated that character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    For me, it was mostly Jackson's absolute character assassination of Faramir that sent me over the edge (like the edge he sent Aragorn over in that wolf-attack scene that never happened in any of the books). If Jackson's intent was to portray Faramir as just another Boromir, he should have just left Boromir alive. For me, it was Faramir that always stood out as one of the most compelling characters in the books. His absolute refusal without the slightest hesitation to take the ring freely offered to him by Frodo was striking. More powerful characters like Galadriel, Gandalf and Aragorn all admitted to or showed at least some level of temptation towards the ring. Faramir by contrast issued that line that always stuck with me about not picking it up if it lay by the side of the road. Jackson obliterated that character.
    You make very good points there. And there did not seem really to be a point in doing it, unless Jackson was trying to change the story in that the ring was too powerful for any mortal man to resist. You make a very good point about Tolkien's character that refused to allow himself to be tempted. Also, I never understood why he sent Aragorn over the cliff like that. I did not see what it added.

    Well, the Hobbit is a prelude or prequel to the trilogy, but largely a more lighthearted adventure tale in and of its own. I hope Jackson's adaptation tells visually that tale with that flavor and that he does not try to turn it into something else. I like the trailer anyway!
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