Coldplay copying Satriani, what's your take?

[ShortBuSX]

There are only so many progressions that humans can create. Eventually they'll be rehashed again somewhere along the line.

Ive heard that before, but thats a feeble case against that video with the 2 songs mixed...but I would be interested to know what that chord progression is.

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STANDARD TUNING - CAPO 1

INTRO: C - D - G - Em x2

[Lev]

Ive heard that before, but thats a feeble case against that video with the 2 songs mixed...but I would be interested to know what that chord progression is.

Satriani is: Bm - E - A - F#m
Coldplay is: D - E - A - F#m

I'm sure there's thousands of songs that share that progression. I'd say the main bone of contention is the melody line 'rule the world' - Db - D - B

if they weren't in the same key people wouldn't have been able to overlap them like that and the whole youtube campaign would never have started. For me it's a conincidence, Coldplay should have played ball with Satch when first contact was initiated though. And maybe Satch shouldn't have described hearing it as a 'dagger through his heart', as a musician he should at least be open to the possibility that coincidences like this can happen.

By the way I'm not a fan of Coldplay and I have pretty much every satriani CD so I've no interest in fighting Coldplays corner I just think it's a conincidence.

[R_of_G]

I don't buy the "different key" argument either. Does that mean if I play most of the melody to "Manic Depression" but do it in a different key that it's a different song? Transposition is not composition. Again, it comes down to the timing for me. Sure, chord progressions are finite and will overlap. When they overlap with the timing mirrored as well we have moved beyond coincidence.

[thearabianmage]

In all fairness - I love Satch, I really do, but he's a being a bit of a bummer about this.

'Into The Storm' by Blind Guardian's 'Nightfall in Middle Earth' is strikingly similar to a Satch tune on The Extremist called 'War' - down to the same pitch, tempo, and even harmonies. They are much more likely to take inspiration from Satch than Coldplay, but they are not as popular, so the chance that their song would make more money than his is slim, as opposed to that of Coldplay.

Now, on the other hand, Satch is, himself, one who looks to others for inspiration. He openly admits the influence Jeff Beck has on him and you can tell - really tell - in his playing. And in 2001 or so, when Beck put out a techno/industrial/dance/rock album called 'You Had It Coming', Satch funnily put out a similar sounding album very soon after called 'The Engines of Creation.'

Don't get me wrong, it's a good album, but he is in no position to bum people for 'ripping off' his tunes.

Anyway, despite mathematical chances, these things can happen, even in such complex circumstances. Especially given the fact that there are only 12 notes in music.

That's my humble opinion, anyways. . .

[R_of_G]

Anyway, despite mathematical chances, these things can happen, even in such complex circumstances. Especially given the fact that there are only 12 notes in music.

If we believe that 12 tone equal temperament is the only way at looking at things. Microtones are the new retrograde.

[thearabianmage]

If we believe that 12 tone equal temperament is the only way at looking at things. Microtones are the new retrograde.

Yes, but microtones are primarily eastern. This is western music based off of the diatonic system and the cycle of fifths. All of this theory is based around the idea of there being 12 notes.

There are some ideas that are bound to crop up once or twice.

[Spudman***]

I just read in the National Enquirer that all Satriani songs are actually Carpenters songs played backwards, all except for that one Air Supply song.

[Suhnton]

I just read in the National Enquirer that all Satriani songs are actually Carpenters songs played backwards, all except for that one Air Supply song.

LOL