Simple - If you like it, buy it. Who cares what others think, ain't their money!
LOL, I hear you (and all of you other folks - except Blaze and Kazz) Street and some others are like the little guy on one shoulder telling me to do the right thing. On the other shoulder is Blaze and Kazz telling me the kids can get their college education from a school that advertises on the matchbook cover.Originally Posted by street music
I know that despite the advise, good intentions are meant from all.
I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that owns a 335 and he was laughing at my excitement over the 335 performance. Someday I will find the one that makes me smile and I can afford.
However, that won't stop me from having erotic 335 dreams tonight.
Mark
* Loud is good, good is better!
Simple - If you like it, buy it. Who cares what others think, ain't their money!
That is true, but can I get another for less that offers the same satisfaction?Originally Posted by Rockette
No question on whether I like it or not, just what am I willing to pay and then what are they willing to accept.
However, for now I am playing my Dot and still find it enjoying.
Just finished playing "Move On" -Jet (acoustic song, but Dot makes it even sweeter)
Mark
* Loud is good, good is better!
Funny observation about guitars - you can pick up two identical models and get a different "vibe" from each. Gotta go with the magic when you can find it.
Originally Posted by just strum
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Hey Strum....Check this out.
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You sure have a beautiful specimen of the model I referred to.Originally Posted by aeolian
One of the details in finish that Heritage pays attention to that Gibson apparently does not, perhaps a lesson learned by the ex-Gibsonites who founded the company, is the stained wood pickguard like yours has. It's an option; you could settle for the mandatory plastic one you get with a comparable Gibson 335 for another ... $500-$1,000?
But you get the Gibson logo and mystique in the bargain.
Hey JS: I am wondering what "The Rest of the Story" is with this 335. How it could never have had an owner since 1991. BTW The black one I own is a 1990, and I agree with you there is something about the tone from these guitars that is just sweet. The neck and the pickups are just amazing. I think it is the fact that they are so responsive. I was told that mine may have the "circuit board" pickups by Bill Lawrence. I have never pulled them but you would be able to tell immediately if they were.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/b.../SGNeckPUP.jpg
According to history they put these in some SGs/LPs/ and 335s.
The Blues is alright!
Guitars: 1968 Gibson SG, 2005 Gibson SG Standard, 2006 Gibson LP Classic Gold top, 2004 Epiphone Elitist LP Custom, 1996 Gibson Les Paul Standard. 2001 Epiphone Sheraton II, 2007 Epiphone G400.
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The guy is calling a '91 new & wants a new-today going (e.g., MF) price it.
Vintage Guitar Mag's Price Guide (I have the '08 ed. here) puts that guitar ('91-'97) in a value range of Low $1,900 - High $2,200.
VGM's High Value is for "all original, excellent condition with original case".
Strum, you made a righteous offer @ $2,100, because that's on the high side of what the guitar is worth, regardless of whether it's 'new' or used in mint condition.
As sweet as it is, my friend, I don't know you to be a guy who'd throw away $1,300-$1,400 walking out the door with a guitar. (Actually, I doubt if you'd be willing to throw a C-note away... )
Demanding $3,500 for a $2,200 guitar is practically criminal. (at best...the range in value is dependent on the actual market it's sold in, be it on land or via the web) The guy's a crook.
OK, so I suggested looking at a Heritage. My bad. Forget it. Walk away and find the 335 you want, that you've longed for, at a fair price.
Maybe that is why it is still there after 18 years. LOL
Just so you know JS. I paid 2000 Can. for mine because that was what my buddy paid for it brand new in 1990. I was able to give him it piece meal, 500 here 300 there over a 6 month period. It was a museum piece when I got it.
Actually it still is!
The Blues is alright!
Guitars: 1968 Gibson SG, 2005 Gibson SG Standard, 2006 Gibson LP Classic Gold top, 2004 Epiphone Elitist LP Custom, 1996 Gibson Les Paul Standard. 2001 Epiphone Sheraton II, 2007 Epiphone G400.
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And probably will be for another 18, when it may be worth $3,500...
Why would you say that. From everything I read, the Heritage is a great guitar, I just don't see that significant of a price difference.Originally Posted by wingsdad
Oh and you are correct, I would get concerned over a C note, just imagine how I would be about $1,300.
I don't know, but I am searching for more info.Originally Posted by ZMAN
The attraction now is the investigative work and the thrill of negotiation. He has the price so high that it will be interesting how much I can get him to reduce the price. The next time that I go in there (maybe this weekend) I will let him know that he should have jumped on the $2100 because after further research the price has gone down -maybe $1750.
Interesting, I will have to look into it just to see where he is willing to go with the price.Originally Posted by Kazz
Mark
* Loud is good, good is better!
Because you've been all over that Gibson for what seems like an eternity; don't settle if that's the emotional bond thing.Originally Posted by just strum
FWIW, though, per the same reference source I used for the 335, a Heritage H535, '87-'99 ranges around A Grand less than the 335. Low $1,100 - High $1,175; same period w/ flamed maple top, Low $1,200 - High $1,275. One from 2000 - '06: Low $1,250 - High $1,350. Seems right, because Willie (ROB) offered me a shot at an '02 about 3 years ago for $1,100 that he was asking $1,200 for. The timing wasn't good financially, as in I was unemployed.
Now you're talking. If you want me to scan the VGM price guide page for you, just PM or email me. Put the market value facts in his face; land on $2 G's.The attraction now is the investigative work and the thrill of negotiation. He has the price so high that it will be interesting how much I can get him to reduce the price. The next time that I go in there (maybe this weekend) I will let him know that he should have jumped on the $2100 because after further research the price has gone down -maybe $1750.
If you can find any recently closed/sold bids on e-bay for a similarly aged 335, they're only semi-relevant; depends on where the buyer/seller are from.
In any case, it's only worth what he can get for it. This guy's name isn't Barnum, is it?
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Is that Robert in the red?Originally Posted by Blaze
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It might be but the Suhr has a little different headstock!Originally Posted by tjcurtin1
The Blues is alright!
Guitars: 1968 Gibson SG, 2005 Gibson SG Standard, 2006 Gibson LP Classic Gold top, 2004 Epiphone Elitist LP Custom, 1996 Gibson Les Paul Standard. 2001 Epiphone Sheraton II, 2007 Epiphone G400.
Fender Strats: 1996 Fender 68 Reissue CIJ, 2008 Squier CV 50s, 2009 Squier CV 50s Tele Butterescotch Blonde
Amps: Blues Junior Special edition Jensen in Brown Tolex with Wheat front, 65 Deluxe Reverb reissue,1970 Sonax reverb by Traynor, Avatar Custom 2/12 Cabinet with Eminence Legend V1216 speakers,
2008 DSL100 Marshall Amp , Fender Super Champ XD,Fender Vibro Champ XD
Effects and Pedals: Fulltone Fulldrive II, Fulltone OCD, Fulltone Mini Deja Vibe, Fulltone Fat Boost, Dunlop Crybaby Wah, Boss DS1, Boss DD20 Giga Delay, Boss TU2 tuner, Boss BD2, Ibanez TS9 Tube screamer, Zoom 505. Radial tonebone hot british.
I've been reading this thread...and was wondering if you ever bought that sweet guitar Just Strum
I went to guitar lessons night before last and my instructor had the door to his studio locked - I could hear him wailing away, he was playing at the King of Blues regional finals yesterday. When he opened the door I saw the guitar he was playing - Gibson ES-335.
Such a beautiful guitar, especially in the hands of a pro. Now this same instructor has been telling me that he needs eye surgery for cataracts (sp?) but hasn't been able to save up the money (no health insurance). I was thinking "Well, maybe you should sell that guitar and get your eye fixed".
It's a killer guitar - but for that price there's a lot of other stuff I'd rather have. Personally I think it's pretty crappy for Gibson to put such an obscene price tag on one of the most beautiful and storied styles...you'd think they'd want everyone to have one. At that price - there's a lot fewer people playing them and playing a dot instead.
How dare Gibson want to make money. I do think that most Gibson guitars are overpriced but I doubt that's going to change anytime soon.
Patrick
LOL - I don't mind them making money...but $3500?? I'm sure they make a HUGE markup on that.Originally Posted by hubberjub
Not too many people can pay that much for a guitar. Like me