Yeah I don't see nuthin' wrong with older people motorcycling, but it's also very obvious when there's a rider like I would be if I started now...you know, you can see a mile away they're absolute beginners at it, and I can't help but be amused about it, thinking like 'now he's got a bad midlife crisis'.

Like, you know, two of my neighbors who are both past 40 bought harleys in recent years, one right when he divorced, and one as his business changed and he became an entrepreneur...now after a few years the other looks like a credible biker already and tinkers with his bike a lot, but the other is clearly a businessman waveringly driving a gleaming brand new harley and that's what I'd look like for sure...so I think it's not for me.

But the main reason 4 me is I've personally driven over one motorist and seen 2 fatal accidents up close plus my best friend died on his bike horribly at like 30mph accident...so years ago I woved there will never be a motorbike or even a moped in my household, and I will forbid and beg my sons to never drive one...I've said I'll rather get them both AK-74's and 9mm Glocks than let them get anything 2-wheeled and motor powered...

As for the licence, yeah, back in the day when I got my licence the motorcycle licence was a given...I did ride mopeds etc. but never a bigger bike. But it came automatically; I have an ABE card that means cars, motorcycles and trailers; these days you only get an A nothing else without extra lessons.

Hell, these days you even need a driving licence for mopeds...when I was a kid that wasn't even imaginable...every kid would be driving mopeds and light motorcycles in their teens and never dreamed you'd need a card to drive. I guess it's because now there are even 'moped cars' which are just like small regular cars with a 600cc diesel engine, but can be driven at 15 years with a moped card because they move 40km/h max.