Eastwood Tuxedo: I'm smitten

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 14, 2007

Really cool stuff:

OK, I can't get youtube to show my previous links. So here is the actual link
to the tuxedo youtube page.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eastwood+tuxedo

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

For some reason it works today...

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

Another one:

Ro3b · Oct 15, 2007

Oh, man. Have you seen their website? I want an Ichiban, and a Town & Country DLX, and a Wandre, and yeah, a Tuxedo too.

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

Ro3b said:
Oh, man. Have you seen their website? I want an Ichiban, and a Town & Country DLX, and a Wandre, and yeah, a Tuxedo too.

Yup! Have you taken a look at the Joey Leone Signature RBC?

http://www.myrareguitars.com/joeyleonerbc2007.html

How does one coil-split a P90?

kerc · Oct 15, 2007

I gotta keep myself away from the Eastwood website. Those things are just too damn sweet!

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

kerc said:
I gotta keep myself away from the Eastwood website. Those things are just too damn sweet!

It might bite into your Rev budget, eh kerc

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t_ross33 · Oct 15, 2007

tot_Ou_tard said:
How does one coil-split a P90?

Like this? :saw:

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

t_ross33 said:
Like this? :saw:

Coool! I'll take it!

kerc · Oct 15, 2007

tot_Ou_tard said:
It might bite into your Rev budget, eh kerc .

Shhhh.

Ro3b · Oct 15, 2007

They say it's a tap and not a split. It's possible to coil-tap a single-coil pickup; I just haven't ever heard of it being done. What a beautiful guitar.

Riley · Oct 15, 2007

Sweet guitars, they sound great!!!!! 8)

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

Ro3b said:
They say it's a tap and not a split. It's possible to coil-tap a single-coil pickup; I just haven't ever heard of it being done. What a beautiful guitar.

When you tap a single coil do you effectively remove some of the windings from the circuit?

Yes, it's too rich for my blood, but if I had the scratch, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Here's a clip of the RBC

Riley said:
Sweet guitars, they sound great!!!!! 8)

Hey Riley, are you talking about the Tuxedo, the RBC, or Eastwood guitars in general?

Have you'd played a Tuxedo?

Another Tuxedo clip:

marnold · Oct 15, 2007

You can't tap a single coil pickup (P90s are single coils) unless it's a hum-canceling one. Then tapping it will tap the dummy coil and make it a true single coil once again, but eliminate any hum cancellation.

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 15, 2007

marnold said:
You can't tap a single coil pickup (P90s are single coils) unless it's a hum-canceling one. Then tapping it will tap the dummy coil and make it a true single coil once again, but eliminate any hum cancellation.

The site says that the pups on the Eastwood RBC are P90s and that each of the three pups has a 3-way toggle switch: Off/On/Coil-Tap.

Why can't you just connect a wire, say, half-way through the windings and another at the end of the windings as usual. Depending on which is connected to the circuit you get a hotter, midrangy P90 sound or a thinner more standard single coil sound?

This is what I think R03b is talking about.

Come to think of it, wouldn't it be possible to wire up a continuously variable connection & so bring windings in & out of the circuit at will? Dial it down for vintage underwound single-coil sounds, or up for xtra-hot P90 snarl.

I'll bet it could be done.

mrmudcat · Oct 15, 2007

Have you seen this?
http://www.stellartone.com/Page.asp?NavID=76

Might be easier

ude:

mrmudcat · Oct 15, 2007

On the model you question.I will say these(pups) are stacked as mentioned above and that is what the coil tap is referring to:munch:

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 16, 2007

mrmudcat said:
Have you seen this?
http://www.stellartone.com/Page.asp?NavID=76

Might be easierude:

Nope, I haven't. It looks cool.

I wasn't planning on building a continuous tap only wondering whther such a thing was possible.

mrmudcat said:
On the model you question.I will say these(pups) are stacked as mentioned above and that is what the coil tap is referring to:munch:

O, so one pup atop the other, but wired in phase?

tunghaichuan · Oct 16, 2007

tot_Ou_tard said:
The site says that the pups on the Eastwood RBC are P90s and that each of the three pups has a 3-way toggle switch: Off/On/Coil-Tap.

Why can't you just connect a wire, say, half-way through the windings and another at the end of the windings as usual. Depending on which is connected to the circuit you get a hotter, midrangy P90 sound or a thinner more standard single coil sound?

Some Schecter single coil pickups from the early 80s had this feature. I used to own a set. The tap is just what it says, a wire soldered somewhere along the winding. So basically the tap switch selects between a lower output "vintage" sound (less windings, part of the coil) and a hot overwound SC pickup sound (full coil).

tung

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 16, 2007

tunghaichuan said:
Some Schecter single coil pickups from the early 80s had this feature. I used to own a set. The tap is just what it says, a wire soldered somewhere along the winding. So basically the tap switch selects between a lower output "vintage" sound (less windings, part of the coil) and a hot overwound SC pickup sound (full coil).

tung

That was my guess. Did the vintage-thing work well, or did it only approximate the tone as tapped 'buckers are thought to do.

tunghaichuan · Oct 16, 2007

tot_Ou_tard said:
That was my guess. Did the vintage-thing work well, or did it only approximate the tone as tapped 'buckers are thought to do.

It worked as advertised. In one position the guitar was sc-vintage tone. In the other, hot overwound sc tone.

tung

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 16, 2007

tunghaichuan said:
It worked as advertised. In one position the guitar was sc-vintage tone. In the other, hot overwound sc tone.

tung

Wow! Sounds cool, why haven't I heard of them before?

tunghaichuan · Oct 16, 2007

tot_Ou_tard said:
Wow! Sounds cool, why haven't I heard of them before?

It's been a while since I owned those pickups, but it seems to me that the tonal difference wasn't that dramatic.

There is an entry in Guitar Electronics for Musicians by Donald Brosnac (published in 1983, ISBN: 0711902321) concerning Schecter and tapped pickups:

"Schecter Guitar Research is a young company which was founded by David Schecter in 1976. David has had extensive experience repairing and customizing Fender guitars and became very knowledgeable about pickup construction. He has worked with and refined tapped pickup design. Tapped pickups have two coil windings in continous series. The first, or inside winding, produces the original Fender sound, whereas the second winding in combination with the first, creates a new sound. The second sound is characterized by higher volume, more bass, and increased sustain." (P. 41)

tung

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 16, 2007

tunghaichuan said:
It's been a while since I owned those pickups, but it seems to me that the tonal difference wasn't that dramatic.

There is an entry in Guitar Electronics for Musicians by Donald Brosnac (published in 1983, ISBN: 0711902321) concerning Schecter and tapped pickups:

tung

That explains a lot. Thanks Tung!

tunghaichuan · Oct 16, 2007

tot_Ou_tard said:
That explains a lot. Thanks Tung!

Glad to help out.

Duncan makes a few tapped models:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/42

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/82

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/90

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/47

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/88

tung

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 16, 2007

tunghaichuan said:
Glad to help out.

Duncan makes a few tapped models:

Ah-ha! Thanks again Tung. Man I learned a lot in this thread.

marnold · Oct 16, 2007

Thanks for the info, Tung. I learned something today!

Jampy · Oct 16, 2007

Did some looking on the Eastwood site, very nice guitars and they are only 20 or so minutes away from where I live, I wrote the president to see if I could visit there facility.. I'll let you know if he writes back..maybe I could bring a camera and take a few snaps..

SuperSwede · Oct 16, 2007

I can definately confirm that Shecters coil tap(s?) sounds better than other brands.

tot_Ou_tard · Oct 16, 2007

Jampy said:
Did some looking on the Eastwood site, very nice guitars and they are only 20 or so minutes away from where I live, I wrote the president to see if I could visit there facility.. I'll let you know if he writes back..maybe I could bring a camera and take a few snaps..

Excellent Jampy! Make sure you get to play some of those beauts.

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