My guess is that if Kurt says it's mahogany, then that's what it is. I'd also guess that the Floyd copy would be crap, but at that price . . .
Hello,
I am really bloated and the GAS is unbearable. I can't build a neck through for this price, do you think this would be any good to play around with? It says mahagony but is probably Agathis but might sound pretty good. It has a nice contour at the neck/body area.
http://www.rondomusic.com/product1256.html
Thank you for your time and help.
M
My guess is that if Kurt says it's mahogany, then that's what it is. I'd also guess that the Floyd copy would be crap, but at that price . . .
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You've got to get one so we'll know what they are like. Looks pretty nice.
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Go ahead, for that price you can afford to mod it, and if it doesn't need upgrading, you win big!
Pretty wood, and it does look like mahogany.
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Looks like Mahogany, but if they want to call it
"Mahoganny" Then who am I to quibble LMAO.....Maho Ganny? Is that some new Hawaiian salutation for a Grandmother?
Seriously I love the "Au Natural" look on guitars and that would be one I would snatch up. I would plan on upgrading the floyd and the pups that guitar just screams Hair Metal to me.....
It also for some reason is whispering....blues blues blues blues to me.....hmmm now where did I hide the beano.
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Pretty nice when you can buy a guitar,as nice as that cheaper than a fret job.And that's a Fret job,not what your thinking.Sumi
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Agathis is Mahogany family, and sounds very similar or identical to Mahogany. Although looking at the guitar I'd say it is Mahogany.
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Give it a shot! You have the woodworking skills to fix it if it breaks, so why not?
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I like the look of it a lot M! Very nice lines to it :
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Thanks guys. I think I am going to have to pass for now. The wife has been noticing too many guitars around here lately...Hmm........I may have to make one and let it be seen over time. It doesn't have the same effect that way
M
ALthough I agree about them sounding similar, sfaik agathis isn't in the mahogany family, it's an Asian pine variety, of all things. I had a DeArmond M-75 that was agathis and it was fecking heavy. Sounded like mahogany all right.Originally Posted by Tibernius
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Yep, Brian is correct, Agathis is a conifer. It's considered to be one of the hardest of the "soft woods" (think pine family), therefore it's used extensively for things like sailboat masts, or siding. It actually has a moisture content very similar to Douglas fir, and has a high resin content as well. Although it is sometimes refered to as "commercial grade mahogany", it's not a mahogany at all. Still, it makes for a decent tone wood on guitar bodies (as seen with many an Ibanez).Originally Posted by Brian Krashpad
Usually when a guitar company is trying to pass a cheap wood off as mahogany, they use Nato. Nato is a soft "hardwood" that looks and sounds similar to cheap mahogany. To say it's a tone wood is misleading though. It doesn't look, sound, or last like real Honduran or even African mahogany. Asian made guitars like some Epiphones and Samicks (to name just two), use or have used Nato, often calling it "mahogany". I had a Samick LP knock off once that was made of Nato. The wood grain was not as defined nor was the color as dark, as real mahogany. It didn't sound like good mahogany either...much brighter tone.
Kurt's descriptions regarding wood types used on Rondo marketed guitars are usually pretty accurate. I've never seen an actual case where he tried to pass Nato off as mahogany...but that doesn't necessarily mean it's never happened. To support this I refer to my SX SST Mahogany w/P-90's. The body is definitely mahogany in appearance and tonally qualities, yet the guitar only cost me $109.99. So I guess they can manufacture a cheap guitar and still use real mahogany.
I tell thee what M29 - I had a flick through the Rondo pages not too long ago and had a little bit of GAS due to that very guitar. I was able to fart it out, but I'd still say go for it.
Nice detailed description of woods, btw, Bloozcat. I was always under the impression that Nato was a decent wood, but from the sounds of it, I should try and avoid it now. . .
Cheers M, now you have me gassing for one!!!! Thanks a lot!
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It's not that Nato is bad wood, it's just that it's often passed off as mahogany. People often react to being deceived like this by pointing to the wood as "bad", when in actuality, it's just not what they were led to believe they were getting. Some people find mahogany sweet sounding, but too dark for their tastes. For them, Nato might be perfect. I know a couple of people who have Samicks made with Nato and they love the tone.Originally Posted by thearabianmage
I don't think I'd be worried with Kurt at Rondo, though. If he says it's mahogany, it's probably mahogany. But to be sure, you could just e-mail him. He's very responsive to questions.
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Old news. I posted about it long ago...Originally Posted by Spudman
Here's the thread: http://www.thefret.net/showthread.php?t=10459
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